I think the new Kat and Zed skins look worse than sewn chaos blitz & amumu

RainbowIcee·Oct 13, 2017·194 votes·8,791 views

and these guys got canceled for not meeting quality criteria https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-bnW1QuH7ObU/WHWCgVnAarI/AAAAAAAAbvQ/uPLTgbm9DnMAtG0m8K-hy_0MpYJb4hxMwCLcB/s640/sewncut.jpg

Honestly, can you switch them? can you bring back sewn chaos and polish them instead of the katerina and zed skins? They were really nice models Imo. Can even have cool recalls and deaths. Would even feel more fitting with the Halloween theme, they might not have animations to be 1350 skins but damn, the models sure look better than some recent 1350 skins anyways, why throw them away?

113 Comments

OverpoweredSoapOct 13, 201765 votes

I never understood the backlash with these two skins, they honestly didn't look as bad as people made them sound like.

Yeah they could be better, but that was something that could have easily been changed with a few texture tweaks.

The new Kat and Zed skins aren't as bad as people make them out to be either imo but they do look rather... messy.

SoryInAdvanceOct 14, 201722 votes

I have not seen these Kat and Zed skins and this is the first I've seen of the blitz and amumu skins and I definitely understand the backlash. These skins look awful... I don't like anything about the blitz skin besides maybeee the hook but even so its not worth getting over any of the other skins of any price. The amumu... it's hard to pinpoint a thing that looks good.. He looks like some kind of moakai sapling retexture much more than a champion himself.

BlakiepugOct 14, 201711 votes

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I have not seen these Kat and Zed skins and this is the first I've seen of the blitz and amumu skins and I definitely understand the backlash. These skins look awful... I don't like anything about the blitz skin besides maybeee the hook but even so its not worth getting over any of the other skins of any price. The amumu... it's hard to pinpoint a thing that looks good.. He looks like some kind of moakai sapling retexture much more than a champion himself.

See but that's your opinion that these skins look bad. When these skins were cancelled, there were a few large discussions on the Boards of players who were very upset that the Sewn Chaos skins were never going to be released. A few people who didn't like the theme of the skins cried out that since they themselves didn't like the skins, then nobody else would and Riot actually listened to them. A small portion of the community took this away because they couldn't "bear to even look at these skins in game." You can't just say I feel this, so everybody else must as well. I personally think the new Death Sworn skins look terrible but am I out here calling for them to never be released? No. Because I am sure there are people out there who do enjoy these skins and would be devastated to see them ready for release, and then thrown in the trash bin thanks to my whining about skins that I am not even going to buy anyways.

UnvictusOct 14, 20175 votes

Kat’s skin is getting a lot of good changes based on the feedback they’ve been getting. Go look at surrender@20.

TwitchInMyPantsOct 15, 20172 votes

Every skin gets bitched about, honestly this is Riot's fault for choosing to scrap rather than improve

Like the skins are a cute redeemable concept but what I heard lots of people talk about is how they don't match the Sewn Chaos theme since they aren't creepy and how they could be changed or reworked or something and Riot just straight up dumpsters them, no matter how many people say "This skin looks like shit scrap it" it'd never happen unless Riot chose to pull the plug. Go to any youtube video advertising a LoL skin and you can find comments complaining about it, so its strange why this one managed to make a difference.

OleandervineOct 13, 201731 votes

I actually agree. I think the Zed and Kat skins are clumsy and just not diverse or exciting enough.

StarboyˇOct 13, 201724 votes

The new zed skin looks like a bad championship chroma lmao

CLusOct 13, 201710 votes

The harrowing theme is trash. You get a Kalista-looking goon squad with hard to see particles. Oh. Boy. Its based on lore that they gutted and don't even care about. The costume- wearing themes were always light hearted and fun even on things like Zombie Brand. A Taliyah recolor to green and calling it "Definitely not Toph" would have been better than this.

Seems like the halloween and christmas skins are taking a back seat to the project and star guardian lines, which is ok, but at least keep the seasonal releases fun.

Friendly RamOct 13, 20179 votes

Yes i'd love these as halloween skins in all honesty.

BlakiepugOct 13, 20179 votes

I wish these Sewn Chaos skins had been released.. :(

DariusDemiurgeOct 13, 20178 votes

Blitzcrank is cute, amumu looks like garbage with that reddish pink color.

AbiwonKenabiOct 13, 20173 votes

Color is probably the easiest thing to change though

DariusDemiurgeOct 13, 20175 votes

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Color is probably the easiest thing to change though

True but I think a bit more detail is needed regardless of color that is picked.

Blue Moon WolfOct 14, 20178 votes

I honestly don't understand the Kat, Zed and Viktor skins. They are pretty much Underworld skins with a pinkish accents. They could easily remove the pink color they added, call them Underworld and it would fit perfectly. I wish I could find out why they felt it was necessary to add yet ANOTHER skin line that is very similar Underworld (along side Soul Stealer and Gravelord Azir ) rather then just make more underworld skins.

DreamspitterOct 15, 20171 votes

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I honestly don't understand the Kat, Zed and Viktor skins. They are pretty much Underworld skins with a pinkish accents. They could easily remove the pink color they added, call them Underworld and it would fit perfectly. I wish I could find out why they felt it was necessary to add yet ANOTHER skin line that is very similar Underworld (along side Soul Stealer and Gravelord ) rather then just make more underworld skins.

What do skin 'lines' do negatively for the game?

Why is more of them 'bad'?

Blue Moon WolfOct 15, 20173 votes

I really didn't want to say it like this cause I know a lot of work DOES go into these, but I guess I'm going to have to be blunt. Its lazy, that simple. Its an excuse for Riot to say "see, we don't reuse the same skin lines over and over again, we can make new skins", even though the only difference is a splotch of different color in one spot, which is being generous considering a skin like Gravelord Azir is pretty much exactly the same as Soul Stealer.

Its not them making more skin lines that are bad, its them abandoning old skin lines and making new ones that are exactly the same as the other one, just with a different title that is bad. It is the lazy route of making more "diverse" skins when they could have just spent the time to either A) think of something unique, or B) just call it what it is, which is a chroma of a different skin line. This isn't just a band aid to deal with the lack of skin diversity, this is them covering the issue with a piece of scotch tape and saying its fixed.

DreamspitterOct 15, 20171 votes

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I really didn't want to say it like this cause I know a lot of work DOES go into these, but I guess I'm going to have to be blunt. Its lazy, that simple. Its an excuse for Riot to say "see, we don't reuse the same skin lines over and over again, we can make new skins", even though the only difference is a splotch of different color in one spot, which is being generous considering a skin like Gravelord Azir is pretty much exactly the same as Soul Stealer.

Its not them making more skin lines that are bad, its them abandoning old skin lines and making new ones that are exactly the same as the other one, just with a different title that is bad. It is the lazy route of making more "diverse" skins when they could have just spent the time to either A) think of something unique, or B) just call it what it is, which is a chroma of a different skin line. This isn't just a band aid to deal with the lack of skin diversity, this is them covering the issue with a piece of scotch tape and saying its fixed.

Who complained about them not making new skin lines? I've never seen this before.

Blue Moon WolfOct 15, 20172 votes

You didn't see people complaining about there being too many Star Guardian, Project Arcade, etc. skins? Cause they pop up all the time.

Athenes LuluOct 14, 20178 votes

"Sewn Chaos" does make a great Halloween theme, though.

Tesla EffectOct 14, 20178 votes

Sewn Chaos Blitz and Amumu were legit nicer looking than Death Sworn Kat and Zed.

StainedViolettOct 14, 20174 votes

look at the updates to them they actually look a lot better. remember pbe does not mean its finished

invisiblecat1Oct 14, 20176 votes

These would fit as "Halloween" skins better than the edgy skins we are currently getting

Azazel AerternumOct 14, 20176 votes

I'd rather get a skin for champs I play TBH, them picking three midlaners, two assassins no less, for the skins this year is quite disappointing.

I was hoping to pick up a few legit skins.

PoppystarOct 14, 20175 votes

This will never happen. The new kat, zed and viktor skins are final and while you may not like them, others will. They are 1350 skins so they have special effects while the sewn chaos skins were 750 skins with no special effects. I think Blitz looks fine but if a player saw that amumu skin, they might not even know who that is since it resembles nothing about amumu at all. That could easily be a teemo skin tbh lol. Giving proper feedback in order to make the new halloween skins better is better than just complaining on the boards that they look bad. Riot listens to constructive feedback, they ignore complaining.

BlakiepugOct 14, 20171 votes

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This will never happen. The new kat, zed and viktor skins are final and while you may not like them, others will. They are 1350 skins so they have special effects while the sewn chaos skins were 750 skins with no special effects. I think Blitz looks fine but if a player saw that amumu skin, they might not even know who that is since it resembles nothing about amumu at all. That could easily be a teemo skin tbh lol. Giving proper feedback in order to make the new halloween skins better is better than just complaining on the boards that they look bad. Riot listens to constructive feedback, they ignore complaining.

I mean, the same was said about the sewn chaos skins in that while you may not like them, others will, yet those got cancelled anyways. And speaking of a skin looking like another champion to me, every time I look at Death Sworn Viktor I think it is a Vladimir skin. And to a lesser degree Zed is hardly recognizable in his skin where the color scheme and swords on his back make him look a little like Shen, and the claws and hair remind me of Warwick. Say what you will, but I think that Sewn Chaos Amumu was a lot clearer as to who the champion was than a lot of these recent skins.

PoppystarOct 14, 20172 votes

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I mean, the same was said about the sewn chaos skins in that while you may not like them, others will, yet those got cancelled anyways. And speaking of a skin looking like another champion to me, every time I look at Death Sworn Viktor I think it is a Vladimir skin. And to a lesser degree Zed is hardly recognizable in his skin where the color scheme and swords on his back make him look a little like Shen, and the claws and hair remind me of Warwick. Say what you will, but I think that Sewn Chaos Amumu was a lot clearer as to who the champion was than a lot of these recent skins.

I honestly think this is ridiculous. They were tossed aside simply because riot didn't want to put out content that looked like it lacked effort and thought. These death sworn skins do not do that. They show that they have had thought put into them. Why do people hate the Kat skin? She has absolutely no resemblance to any of her other skins, this is a really unique look for her and I honestly think she looks great. If you want Riot to listen to your feedback, you have to provide constructive criticism and feedback. What do you want changed about Viktor to make his skin better? What can be done to Zed's skin for it to look more Zed to you? If you do this, the skins could change (and they already have, zed's shadow was adjusted and kat's hair was fixed) but they will not scrap 1350 skins that they worked on for months (special effects, particles, etc.) while the sewn chaos skins were just an overlay with no special effects. Compared to Sewn Chaos Ori, they are not cohesive with that skinline and look quite lack luster in comparison.

Nintendo 3DSOct 14, 20175 votes

Honestly i'm starting to think people would really be more pleased if they just released Sewn Chaos instead of Death Sworn. Death Sworn are the most hated skins i've ever seen. And i don't remember Sewn Chaos getting that much backlash tbh. They scrapped Sewn Chaos for being below quality standards. But Death Sworn is too below quality standard and pretty mUch everyone loathe them, so why keep up with these skins...? I'm kinda confused with Riot decision to release Death Sworn at their current state.

In fact, Sewn Chaos could really fit an Halloween theme. They are cute, but sort of uneasy cute making them almost scary. A bit like a fun-scary Tim Burton films effect. Death Sworn on the other hand... I may find Kata quite pretty and was hoping for a Viktor skin since a long time... But despite the tweaks they stay what they were since the start : unoriginal, boring and just not exciting.

Seriously Mr.Riot. I know you may never see this thread or will probably not agree at all, but consider releasing Sewn Chaos instead? Maybe?

Sexy Jack RabbitOct 15, 20175 votes

Really the Katarina skin is just a rehash of what we've gotten a million times before. Chick in an outfit with her tits out.

Really nothing about the design makes me think 'Spooky' 'Halloween' or even 'Ghost' for that matter.

It's just lame.

MysteriousBootieOct 14, 20174 votes

sewn amumu actually sounds like a good concept lol

MeDicenWeraOct 14, 20174 votes

Pleeeease, I was super excited for both of these and the Kat Zed Vik ones are really meh. Not even sort of gravelordy like Azir, PLEEEEASE.

CochoOct 14, 20174 votes

I've played as the new kat skin and I love it. Feels smooth a/f.

That blitz is ok, mumu ugly lol imo

WinterkillOct 14, 20174 votes

I seriously wish they would just scrap Zed and Katarina. The skins are terrible. If they had fixed Katarina's skin color and eyes . . . . like make them white . . . I can see it being decent. I still get a vibe of a girl cosplaying as a Shadow Isles champion. It's a shame they have to release such ugly skins for the sake of it solely being a champion skin quota.

Grief Me PleaseOct 14, 20174 votes

I'm personally a pretty big fan of the Katarina skin, even more so after they adjusted a couple things about it, and honestly, all the negative feedback worries me. If riot decides to do the same thing as they did with these skins, it would be awful :( Plus, I didn't even think the blitz and amumu skins looked bad :l

Jerry SeinfeIdOct 13, 20173 votes

Blitz had potential, amumu was thrash. I mean the model is well made but the look of it is just bad. They were salvageable though. imo the new skins still look great tho.

HeroineSamOct 14, 20173 votes

I do agree a little bit. Kat holding those swords does not look natural at all, and the zed's shurikens just look pretty strange. Why would he be throwing swords in that shape? And why would they do damage like that? (however, zed's e is pretty cool though).

Finn Teh HumanOct 14, 20173 votes

WTF I thought Blitz was really cute!

The Ghøst KingOct 14, 20173 votes

I am very disappointing that these are the harrowing skins, where are my pumpkins and cauldrons

DauntOct 14, 20173 votes

Death Sworn Kat actually looks good after yesterdays changes. They really are putting a lot of effort in the skins and KateyKhaos stated that they won't be cancelling them.

zrWQMdGHtYOct 14, 20171 votes

It wont look even 1% good until they dont remove the high heels. Only good thing on that skin is the recall >.>

DauntOct 14, 20175 votes

I don't think they're really noticeable.

zrWQMdGHtYOct 14, 20171 votes

How is a 10 cm heel not noticeable? Katarina is 165cm, now she's magically over nearly 180cm... IF you don't notice that, idk where you're looking at.

DrCyanideOct 14, 20172 votes

You notice a difference if 10 cm/4 inches from as far away as the camera is, looking down on someone?

I'm not even sure they actually change the height of the model for adding/removing heels, I think they just extend or shrink the legs to keep the model consistent.

PS: weren't you the one that didn't notice that the current Slay Bells Kat has heels? How do you notice these ones?

Frozen DivaOct 14, 20173 votes

Sewn Chaos Blitzcrank and Amumu are amazing. I will never understand this. Like... this would be the best skin of Amumu. Zeds new skin looks just like garbage. It's a mess. Kata and Viktor are nice imo.

Pixie StormOct 14, 20173 votes

Overwatch had some amazing Halloween Skins and emphasized the Halloween on it. The semi spooky theme touch the silly stuff. You know Halloween is supposed to be like ghosties, zombies, spooky clowns. It seems like They were just trying too hard to be cool with the Halloween skins released.

RainbowIceeOct 14, 20174 votes

there's too much emphasis in being "badass" in these types of games. Sometimes it's good to relax and do something fun or have fun skins. Like last year's halloween lineup, it was amazing. It looks far better when the champions are dressed up, or cosplaying as something else rather than them being some "bad ass ghost "

Rayjay RedfangOct 14, 20173 votes

I miss the sewn chaos skins. I was actually looking forward to them.

BoulderoxOct 15, 20173 votes

I despise these "Halloween skins" for the same reason I haven't bought a skin in the past few months... because riot is on a huge binge of over the top, in your face color schemes

Arcade: pink/purple with bright blue accent on abilities star guardians wave 3: neon and sparkles sword skin line: subtle vibrant coloring, while effects are neon... and now Halloween: dark color with neon accent and effects

and the thing is, there were skin releases in between all of these, omega, order/chaos, and one offs, but this scheme keeps pestering. It is just that it can be distracting with the skins sometimes, I cannot be the only one. They do a great job don't get me wrong and are great skins, but I really don't like how the skins are slowly drifting into this in your face distracting color. And while the sewn chaos can be in the same boat, I would much prefer them over the skins that are supposedly halloween based...

FairyfleurOct 14, 20172 votes

The splash art was thrown away too, and it was really good.

Imperial JapanOct 14, 20172 votes

Why not just release all four 🤷‍♂️ Of course with some touch ups on Amumu. The reddish color just plastered doesn’t look good. I think it’d look great if it was colorful like blitz tho