So we are nerfing elise

DogshítPlayer·Jan 22, 2016·2 votes·460 views

But jax is fine

6 Comments

Craft ZeppelinJan 22, 20161 votes

the new luden item made her poke too damn strong. and well as you know, her early game is real strong so she basically even wont give her foes mercy even in their tower

Excitidly InsaneJan 22, 20162 votes

"So we made her do what she's supposed to do but we can't allow it to happen because it competes with Poster Boy Lee."

She's about the early game and snowballing lanes. I fail to understand why when champions are achieving their goals they are then nerfed simply for doing what they were designed to do.

Feed DaddyJan 22, 20161 votes

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"So we made her do what she's supposed to do but we can't allow it to happen because it competes with Poster Boy Lee."

She's about the early game and snowballing lanes. I fail to understand why when champions are achieving their goals they are then nerfed simply for doing what they were designed to do.

It's mostly because AP items are stupid broken OP that she shouldn't be as powerful as Lee.

But also because I fucking hate her.

Like idk about yall but every time I see an Elise I get post traumatic stress from being top lane 5 minutes in. Not winning trade. Have to wait until creeps are under tower to get them. Boom Elise pops in I'm level 2 and first blood. Walk back to lane. ELISE DOES IT AGAIN.

and now I can't lane at all.

Excitidly InsaneJan 22, 20161 votes

Surely you'd pop a ward if that happened. You don't even have to face check you can place it in the river bush over the wall.

But what you describe is EXACTLY what Elise is supposed to achieve. She's there to snowball lanes and shut down the game as with the likes of Fiddlesticks, Maokai and Pantheon. And to a certain extent Lee Sin. The item itself however is something I myself deem strong to the point of overpowered. 2.5 times the base damage make her clears lightning fast with good Human W placement and add a nice chunk to her Human E.

However a la Pantheon she becomes a glorified stun bot with less reliability than Pantheon but with more value on poke and execution prowess as the game drags on. A team with Elise that failed to secure an early advantage is basically a losing team as she cannot access half the value her kit has on a reliable bases due to her combo's "cast time".

M4ndrakeJan 22, 20161 votes

Why do we need to nerf Elise ?

We have other Champs that have this early power .

Nidalee Lee Sin Kindred Nocturne could potentially play a devastating level 2-3 gank too .

HAs anyone mentioned Kindred her level 2 gank potential is insane if you get all 3 basics for your E in + W a shishy is simply dead and that before any items.

I did this once to 3/4hp life top lane garen , gank successful he was dead.

In terms of falling off , Nida , Nocturne and Kindred dont fall off like Lee and Elise on the contrary.

Feed DaddyJan 22, 20161 votes

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Why do we need to nerf Elise ?

We have other Champs that have this early power .

Nidalee Lee Sin Kindred Nocturne could potentially play a devastating level 2-3 gank too .

HAs anyone mentioned Kindred her level 2 gank potential is insane if you get all 3 basics for your E in + W a shishy is simply dead and that before any items.

I did this once to 3/4hp life top lane garen , gank successful he was dead.

In terms of falling off , Nida , Nocturne and Kindred dont fall off like Lee and Elise on the contrary.