Riot is willing to make really bad balance changes around perservation or creation of "identity"

Irelia Bot·7/30/2019, 5:28:31 AM·19 votes·9,592 views

They have taken so much form akali before even trying to target what might actually be the problem. Now she doesn't have her heal or a reliable form of stealth or really good mobility.

I half expect more Irelia nerfs every patch given she is still commonly seen in pro play last I checked. I am still saying making the marks a coodown reduction of about 70% (multiplicative with item and rune CDR) would likely resolve most of the issues while keeping the reset on kill. Having to wait 1.5 to 2 seconds between a Q on a marked target would not be an issue given it is still much more rewarding compared to the down time on old Irelia.

Kled will be keeping the unnecessary grievous wounds and losing other aspects of his kit, same with Reneton and Blitz for the shield break when they prove to be too effective against something like protect the kog comps in pro play.

Riot has this concept of you can't touch or nerf a champs identity even if it s a problem. And they are starting to add things to kits which are clearly intended to be a part of a champs identity regardless of it is a good idea or not.

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23 Comments

Kai Guy7/30/2019, 6:24:09 AM8 votes

To be fair. The last time I checked Nerfs every few patches kind of WAS Irelia identity?

CaptainAntiHeroz7/30/2019, 5:45:47 AM7 votes

And instead of nerfing aatrox heal or poke harass they remove his REVIVE

Akali is SO HOT7/30/2019, 5:36:41 AM5 votes

Designing an entire kit around the fact that she would be immune to turrets was a really good idea in the long run.

Blakiepug7/30/2019, 3:19:28 PM4 votes

Riot doesn't touch a champ's identity unless their name is Tahm Kench... :(

RIP Catfish

preternatural7/30/2019, 10:02:28 AM2 votes

ok seriously, irelia isn't a problem. just turn on your brain.

Posui Gart7/30/2019, 2:21:15 PM2 votes

They have taken so much form akali before even trying to target what might actually be the problem.

They didn't remove her stupid 4 dashes and free MS from every ability in every direction. The "identity" of Akali is a "slow", sustained-damage assassin and that was even before the rework.

Now she doesn't have her heal

Last time I played, Gunblade was core on her. And she also takes Fleet Footwork, Triumph and those 2 domination sustain runes. At least some of these. And her base damages and lack of mana allow her to take doran shield as 1st item.

or a reliable form of stealth

W? There is no stealth that is more reliable. And there is no stealth that

or really good mobility.

4 dashes and a lot of MS boosts is not a good mobility anymore?

I half expect more Irelia nerfs every patch given she is still commonly seen in pro play last I checked. I am still saying making the marks a coodown reduction of about 70% (multiplicative with item and rune CDR) would likely resolve most of the issues while keeping it is reset on kill. Having to wait 1.5 to 2 seconds between a Q on a market target would not be an issue given it is still much more rewarding compared to the down time on old Irelia.

Just remove the marks at all. Then buff her W,E,R accordingly. That would partially revert her to a pre-rework state when she relied on minions to gapclose. Or at least let me counterplay her without burning flash every time I see her ult animation.

The thigh guy7/31/2019, 3:32:16 AM1 votes

Champion “identity” is not a valid balancing argument. If it’s stupidly broken, like akali’s healing was, then it either needs to be gutted or removed.

I could easily argue that Leblanc having a silence was part of her “identity”, but it sure as hell wasn’t healthy.