So I played that new Ahri on PBE...

Insanity 101·1/19/2015, 10:32:37 AM·8 votes·1,792 views

It's very fun, the q ms buff makes her actually feel nimble even when she doesn't have her ultimate.

The problem is that I feel like she needs a few more buffs. Her damage isn't THAT bad but it is a little bit underwhelming now.

I am gonna throw in a few absolutely stupid suggestions on how she should be buffed:

  • Have her q cool down lowered from 7 seconds to 6 seconds.

  • Give her ultimate a 0.75 second delay between dashes.

  • Buff her ultimate's ap ratio from 35% to 30%

  • Additional fox fires hitting the same target deal 40% the dmg instead of 30%.

  • Foxfires prioritize charmed targets.

  • Somehow buff her spell vamping abilities.

Ok these changes might possibly break her but whatever, I just want to see what you guys think about the new Ahri.

P.S Rito pls buff Sona and fix Ahri's chin.

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27 Comments

DefenderOfFaith1/19/2015, 11:15:47 AM6 votes

What is "wrong" with Ahri anyway? They take away DFG and now they need to "fix" her?

I think its Rito sneaky talk and card shuffling. They probably just want to nerf her but "oh we got to rework after DFG" to make ppl nod.

Granted, I haven't played the new one. But I'm still on that part trying to get past why we need to change the old one. Smoke and mirrors.....

Insanity 1011/19/2015, 10:50:11 AM5 votes

I just realized something...

The q speed buff means adc Ahri has been buffed! :O

BRB! GONNA BREAK THE META!!!

Neo Cyrus1/19/2015, 2:06:54 PM3 votes

I don't think you understand just how much damage she lost. Charm + DFG was a 44% amp. 1.2 x 1.2 = 1.44. She will have the lowest win rate in the game and be bullied out by virtually every other mage if these nerfs go through. I agree DFG needed to be deleted, but Ahri didn't need to be so heavily nerfed so heavily on top of it. In fact she didn't need any nerfs at all.

Brorelia1/19/2015, 10:38:20 AM2 votes

She is likely not gettng any more cominsation buffs for the time being. Remember that she was origionally played more as a mage then an assassin and she is likely going to return to more of that role.

But it is hard to tell how she will play at this time andI don't want another one of those reworks that makes a champ insanely broken.

If she proves to be weak in 5.2 they will likely buff her in 5.3 or 5.4 Ahri seems to be one champ they want to keep in a good spot unlike say Urgot.

Pika3101/19/2015, 10:52:28 AM2 votes

Honestly, if they just kept the Q/W buffs while throwing out the E nerf, I would be perfectly happy. Nerfing a champion to compensate for nerfing that champion: Riot Logic. The E nerf is completely unjustified.

Abyssphere1/19/2015, 1:20:51 PM2 votes

I just want them to reduce the cost of her Charm and I'll be happy. 85 mana isn't justified anymore.

SecretAgentHulk1/19/2015, 5:39:38 PM2 votes

I don't disagree with anything, but wouldn't the PBE boards be the place to post this?

Junkο1/19/2015, 6:02:06 PM2 votes

Buff her ultimate's ap ratio from 35% to 30%

Don't worry Riot will "buff" like that, they always do

qetzel1/19/2015, 8:43:57 PM1 votes

Well, I think the idea is that you deal your damage over a longer time period now. No more assassinating. Start kiting.

Try shifting your playstyle first to see what the changes do. If in a week or two it still feels weak, say something.

Lanofrose1/19/2015, 10:44:07 AM1 votes

I Ran some of the number in a thread of mine (ROIT PLZ NO ONE SAW THAT ONE) but I posted it in my other thread

  • W on a 35% on same target
  • 33% on ult *and 10% still on charm for Assassin Ahri *PBE Q boost and the kit only gets around 1% more damage then live (we lost DFG anyways)
  • was going to use a 7/6.75.6.5/.6.25/6 scaling CD on Q but opted to use 5%CDR in kit for help with Ult also since there is no big ticket CDR item as of next patch

All while only giving her a 1% damage increase over LIVE, so don't think im just shouting OP BS lol

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/zk5IZrIO-assassin-ahris-viabilty-without-dfg-and-potential-upcoming-changes-worries-me

Go have a look if you want its a few post down in thread

Hizsoo1/20/2015, 3:16:50 AM1 votes

If you would check out this feedback thread about her, I would appreciate that. http://riot.com/1yG8DlT

SloshMoney1/19/2015, 10:41:13 AM1 votes

I could see prioritizing charmed targets for her other spells like W and R.

Everything else is stupid.

Ahri has been through hell and back with balances... she's fine right now imho, even with DFG removal she'll still be strong, granted you have skill above silver ranking.