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How do you fight draven? It seems impossible.

Solels·3/23/2015, 1:07:23 AM·2 votes·2,192 views

I don't see how. You can't just interrupt his axes when he can have 2 at once; he can just wait if it is interrupted with his second axe. His bloodrush makes running away from him impossible, and you cannot kite him because he outdamages every single adc in this game early on. Even if you are somehow able to interrupt both of his axes, he can just stand aside and make sure he can get away while it is on cd, (even if that doesn't work, he can just bloodrush away, gaining a ridiculous amount of movespeed). I have no qualms about his ult, it doesn't seem unavoidable.

Any marksman I have played against him just fails at out trading because of his ridiculous amount of bonus ad with his axes going. I can't even farm with him in lane with me because of his range; whenever I go in for a minion, he throws an axe that does about twice my damage. When I try to do the same while he goes for his axe, he just pulls out the other one and starts obliterating me. Afterwards, he just keeps getting more and more powerful as he denies farm and snowballs harder than any champion I have ever seen in this game.

I see no way of fighting him at all with any marksman I play; he outdamages every other marksman from what I have seen, and can run away if he is ever in trouble, making trading with him practically impossible.

Could I please get real advice? Not "smells like bronze." I really see no way to fight him in lane early/early-mid game.

I already have a downvote...why? I ask for advice about how to exploit Draven's weaknesses that I am not seeing and I get downvoted? Really?

25 Comments

Maximum Zilean3/23/2015, 1:11:19 AM1 votes

Early game against Draven is all about punishing him if he goes to catch an axe. Basically if he goes to catch one, hit him. If he fails to catch it and ignore the damage, he's open for free damage for about 5 seconds before he can ready another. Draven has 0 damage when he doesn't have his spinning axes ready. So abuse this weakness.

Lysdexic13/23/2015, 1:14:06 AM1 votes

Also, he is squishier than most other ADC's to make up for the damage, so after he misses an axe, punish him. engage hard and try your very best to use that window to annihilate him.

BluePolarizer3/23/2015, 1:17:26 AM1 votes

Jinx/Trist/Cait should be able to farm safely then outscale. As long as you don't feed Draven in the first 10 minutes, you are in good shape for mid-game team fights where he isn't as good thanks to weak mobility and predictable movements.

Solels3/23/2015, 1:32:54 AM1 votes

bump

The Paulrus3/23/2015, 1:36:36 AM1 votes

Play Caitlin. Outrange him all day. You can pick him off before he can even touch you. Also, you know where he's going to be because of his axes to catch them. Make use of that with your Q/E. The way to beat draven is to not let him get close enough to aa.

ActuallyArrow3/23/2015, 2:59:27 AM1 votes

One does not simply fight THE Draven....

usul12023/23/2015, 6:51:42 AM1 votes

Quinn the blind lets you trade damage free for a few seconds (and it's a free hit, since you can aim right between him and his axes). your E is a massive slow that can ruin his blood rush. your ult allows you to dodge his ult, and gives you more burst than he has.

Separately, punish him for CS. his base AS isn't exactly wonderful, and if you can punish him for CSing while still maintaining CS yourself, he's not impossible to zone. just make sure your support is working with you instead of poking individually.

Kroleigh3/23/2015, 6:53:26 AM1 votes

Just call Darius over to cut him in half.

ShakySurgeon3/23/2015, 6:59:56 AM1 votes

Varus is a pretty nice counter to Draven. The constant poke from your Q's, slows from E, hard CC from R. Like everyone said above, abuse him when he goes to catch an axe. Best to focus on farming, since in a straight up fight he'll always out-trade you.

Miku Lv993/23/2015, 7:28:48 AM1 votes

Wait till he pushes. Get jungler to gank him and you kill him. Then he's not a problem since when he's behind he's really bad. Do not fight him very much without help from your jungler.