You Don't Want Ohmwrecker

Chaos Milk Tea·Mar 1, 2017·64 votes·2,967 views

Y'all think you want Ohmwrecker to be good, but if the item that TURNS OFF TOWERS becomes usable you will be seeing the snowball we are all complaining about right now crank up. We need better towers, not worse ones.

59 Comments

CrettMar 1, 201740 votes

Buff towers and ohmwrecker

but buff ohmwrecker less lol

RainbowIceeMar 2, 201719 votes

then nerf irelia after.

MelledoneusMar 2, 201712 votes

Yeah she hasn't had a nerf in a while.

Faceroll TacticsMar 2, 20175 votes

It's also around due time for lee to get a shield buff, riven to get 5 more damage on q, and twitch to have a lower mana cost on w.

SpecterVonBarenMar 2, 20175 votes

Just buff towers. If towers are stronger then Ohmwrecker will automatically be buffed since there will be a reason to take it.

CrettMar 2, 20173 votes

agreed. its in an awkward place where it's something you WOULD buy late game but by late game towers are useless

CrimsonCobra3Mar 2, 20172 votes

Actually, with every buff to the towers, Ohmwrecker automatically becomes a little better. Because it shuts them off.

Critmaster GarenMar 1, 201720 votes

item 3056 should change to a defensive item that helps you to defend against sieges.

imo it would be cool if it gave the old shared shield passive when near turrets, that the t2 turrets used to have. the turret and the guy with the ohmwrecker would get a regenerating shield while theyre near each other.

Chaos Milk TeaMar 1, 20172 votes

Right now the closest things are zzrot portal and banner of command, both of which are quite useful when behind. I'd be happy to see some "comeback items" that give clear direction to losing teams in terms of how to defend their base.

Critmaster GarenMar 1, 20175 votes

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Right now the closest things are zzrot portal and banner of command, both of which are quite useful when behind. I'd be happy to see some "comeback items" that give clear direction to losing teams in terms of how to defend their base.

i think zz rot and banner are more like "win more" items.

theyre more useful when youre already ahead, to splitpush a sidelane and forcing the enemy team to split up so you can roll over them 5v4.

MrFluffyPuffyMar 2, 20171 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/6WeuG413-item-concepts (shameless self-promotion joke) Do you think of an item like "Hextech Tower Boost". (I don´t like to do self promotion but I thought that it would fit here)

DoozkuMar 1, 20171 votes

Good idea. I think riot doesn't want this because it would enforce stall metas (which is pretty dumb imo). I can imagine this being a pretty awesome thank support item, like a better banner of command.

Succubús GFMar 1, 20173 votes

Towers are already useless as fuck so whats your point lmao

jama655Mar 2, 20173 votes

i buy item 3056 on Nasus 100% win rate what are they gonna do kill you ??? HAHAHAHAH

Irelia BotMar 2, 20173 votes

Actually I want it to have a defensive alternative that last for 5 seconds to fortify a targeted allied tower so it can not be damaged and fires faster with splash damage.

AbiwonKenabiMar 2, 20171 votes

I feel like they could use some of the ideas from Nexus siege here, or at least the assets.

LuggMar 1, 20172 votes

Why would anyone build it anyway? Towers right now are a complete joke at every stage of the game. You have squishies able to tower dive at level 3 right now.

ModKnightsKemplarMar 2, 20172 votes

Ohmwrecker probably isn't that far away from getting removed cause no one uses it.

MXXXXXLMar 2, 20171 votes

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ModKnightsKemplarMar 2, 20171 votes

They remove items all the time...

I don't care if they still call it Ohmwrecker; if they change the stats and the unique active, it's isn't the same item. You could have called the current Luden's Echo "deathfire grasp," but the old deathfire grasp would still be gone. Let's not get too many semantics on the issue.

MXXXXXLMar 4, 20171 votes

Never mind actually, Grez's spectral lantern and wriggles lantern were both referral items that got removed.

ModKnightsKemplarMar 4, 20171 votes

Ah. I didn't even know that.

But yeah, I wouldn't be shocked to see them remove it because they thought it wasn't healthy of helpful for the game. I don't hate the item; I would love to see it balanced and viable, frankly. But if they feel like they can't do that, they have shown that they are willing to scrap ideas.

4th3t0sMar 2, 20172 votes

Fun idea, what if using it near an allied tower buffed lt for a duration like garrison used to?

StoryDuckMar 2, 20172 votes

Wait? What are towers? Are you talking about those tall buildings in the middle of the map that hold a ton of gold for the enemy? They made an item to turn if off? Does that stop them from giving out gold because that would be awesome!

420 gramsMar 1, 20171 votes

I think it's a really strong item in a team you have voice chat with. It's too difficult to coordinate when you're going to use it with your team in chat while fighting

sit kidMar 1, 20176 votes

Never seen in LCS. Not even once this or last season.

TotalJerkMar 1, 20171 votes

Because when pros want to tower dive they just buy armor.

sit kidMar 1, 20172 votes

Excactly. It's not worth the cost getting ohmwrecker atm

YumaS2AstralMar 1, 20171 votes

To be honest I think I haven't even seen this item in my games during years.

21 shiny nickelsMar 2, 20172 votes

Meteos actually built it on gragas against team envy in the 2016 summer split. He built it next to a bf sword though...

Mizuki ZahraMar 1, 20171 votes

I use item 3056 to save my adc from low hp tower dives lol

MXXXXXLMar 2, 20171 votes

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I use to save my adc from low hp tower dives lol

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SiG DxDMar 1, 20171 votes

item 3056 should make allied towers be tankier and do true dmg ,so you wont tank 31 towershots

Arsenic SulfurMar 2, 20176 votes

That case had Nautilus fed AF, backed up by Nami's heals boosted by items, some shields, enemies being held back, and 3 Nautilus shields. If he died during that then towers would actually be too strong because even through multiple sources of damage mitigation Nautilus still died.

CurlyCrusaderMar 2, 20172 votes

Thirty one tower shots is still absolutely ridiculous.

RavenMagusMar 1, 20171 votes

I would be very okay with Ohmwrecker becoming good by proxy, actually.

Buffing towers so that Ohmwrecker's current state actually becomes good would be completely fine.

I'm okay with people buying an item specifically meant for tower dives. The problem is that right now, item 3068 does exactly the same thing as Ohmwrecker because it lets you just ignore all the weak tower shots anyways, and that's just plain sad.

FakeGravityMar 2, 20171 votes

he just need something that get even close to let you defend a turret when behind, how im suppose to defend a turret even on a 5vs5 if the enemy just ignores the turret completely, kill you and your team and take no damage in the process?

SnowFallMar 2, 20171 votes

It shouldn't give ap, it should be available for both AD/AP

LauchmelderMar 2, 20171 votes

Cough Maw Cough Edge of Night Cough QSS

Irelia BotMar 2, 20171 votes

So you are saying an item that provides mainly health and armor with 10% CDR is somehow going to get MR?

LauchmelderMar 2, 20171 votes

No, I'm saying that we don't need to give AD ANOTHER item while there's such a huge imbalance between AP and AD.

Darksun DragoonMar 2, 20171 votes

I want towers to be strong enough that Ohmwrecker becomes a worthwhile consideration.

RaoulMar 2, 20171 votes

Actually, Ohnwrecker is how all Items with strong actives should be, strong active, but only medicore stats. The reason its not used is because literally all other Items with effects on the same power level also have super good stats and are very slot efficient.

Thats also a reason why we never had a Support Item not abused by other lanes, because all Items, even those who have good effects, have good stats.

Ale non è maleMar 2, 20171 votes

item 3056 problem is that health and health regen strategies and champs got continuely destroyed over time (directly and indirectly), so an already situational item in a rarely used strategy it is obviously going to be never used

What champ are going to benefit a lot from health regen in game right now? DrMundo regen doesn't need further help and is better off building armor/mr stat (and item 3065 suffice for that), same can be said for Garen (that being an early game doesn't even need much the item to win trades and get the tower if played well on a non unfavourable match-up), Volibear passive naturally give him the health regen when he need him the most, Mordekaiser get the shield in exchange from using health as resources, Aatrox need damage for lifesteal more than health regen, Zac and Vladimir can naturally heal for their health expenses

Basically only Soraka could benefit from the combo of stats on Ohmwrecker, if she want to go a bit more tankier I guess - and still she yet has item 3069 + item 3174 + item 3107 + item 3222 / item 3504 so Ohmwrecker is just probably overkill for health regen (and thus healing power) and can only provide some armor that would be lacking -?

The times of Fratmog's (do anyone rember Atma's Impaler?) where health and health regen dominated are long gone, so Ohmwrecker more often than not doesn't serve purposes that can't be served better by other items

Silent PaceMar 2, 20171 votes

I don't care for Ohmwrecker. Just rework it into something useful that does something tower related like buffing your own towers.

XonraMar 3, 20171 votes

For me it is less wanting that item specifically improved, and an item not just wasting space for a better item. Could always be more choices instead of the cookie cutter choices, and one or two at most "niche" choices, that are only niche really in fun game modes. I usually want the item better just to have an option for a different item really.

Already too many items I look at and go "why would I bother getting this when X is obviously better?", then you look at item 3056 and just go "why would I bother getting this" and stop there.