Rhaast needs buffs

Bultz·Sep 24, 2019·5 votes·1,662 views

Blue form kayn is fine, but Rhaast needs some upgrades. His damage is pretty bad and his sustain isn't as great as you'd imagine. The only thing he has going for him is his w and unless you're ahead with him you're instantly behind. Like he needs buffs. Also please ffs increase him ms. It feel so bad to play while he runs like my grandmother. Rhaast is struggling too hard, I find while playing him and watching others play him, against tanks and bruisers... the ones he is supposed to counter..

23 Comments

ZleraSep 24, 20196 votes

"his damage is pretty bad" well, theres a reason for that LMAO. He has amazing sustain with his passive, he doesnt need damage.

noopertonSep 24, 20191 votes

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"his damage is pretty bad" well, theres a reason for that LMAO. He has amazing sustain with his passive, he doesnt need damage.

As a kayn main I think kayn is perfectly fine... I think hes actually really good right now, I win ranked games consistantly with him, I was on an 8 win streak, lost 1, won 6 in a row, then lost 2.

BultzSep 25, 20192 votes

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"his damage is pretty bad" well, theres a reason for that LMAO. He has amazing sustain with his passive, he doesnt need damage.

He is easily killed and his sustain is easily countered. He needs damage.

Düff McWhalenSep 24, 20193 votes

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Blue form kayn is fine, but Rhaast needs some upgrades. His damage is pretty bad and his sustain isn't as great as you'd imagine. The only thing he has going for him is his w and unless you're ahead with him you're instantly behind. Like he needs buffs. Also please ffs increase him ms. It feel so bad to play while he runs like my grandmother. Rhaast is struggling too hard, I find while playing him and watching others play him, against tanks and bruisers... the ones he is supposed to counter..

He can heal back his entire lifebar if he's not stunned. What are you smoking?

XavanicSep 25, 20192 votes

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He can heal back his entire lifebar if he's not stunned. What are you smoking?

only if the entire enemy team was too stupid to get grievous wounds Also, in what game does the enemy team not have stuns

BLIGHTBRINGERSep 24, 20192 votes

I think the issue with him currently is that he just gets bursted down to quickly before his abilities come off of cooldown for the sustain to take place. I don't think he needs major buffs, just something to make him a bit tougher.

XavanicSep 24, 20191 votes

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I think the issue with him currently is that he just gets bursted down to quickly before his abilities come off of cooldown for the sustain to take place. I don't think he needs major buffs, just something to make him a bit tougher.

Tbh i feel his E should morph into a mitigation ability rather then just the crappy heal when he enters a wall as it is now, still let him go through walls but also give him like 35% damage reduction for the duration (additionally it persists for 2 second, extended by 1 every time he takes damage or remains in a wall, up to say 5 seconds)

BultzSep 25, 20191 votes

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I think the issue with him currently is that he just gets bursted down to quickly before his abilities come off of cooldown for the sustain to take place. I don't think he needs major buffs, just something to make him a bit tougher.

He does get killed way too fast even with tanky builds. If you miss your w, your bascially dead vs any carry. Tanks out damage you. He needs buffs.

The thigh guySep 25, 20192 votes

I hate to inform you that rhaast is in a perfect state right now

He isn’t broken but he’s far from weak.

If you’re having damage issues as rhaast then you are choosing him into the wrong enemy team. The only buff this champion needs is bug fixes.

This coming from a Kayn one trick.

BestFioraEUSep 25, 20192 votes

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I hate to inform you that rhaast is in a perfect state right now

He isn’t broken but he’s far from weak.

If you’re having damage issues as rhaast then you are choosing him into the wrong enemy team. The only buff this champion needs is bug fixes.

This coming from a Kayn one trick.

I fucking love you thx for actually having a decent brain we need more humans like you on earth

The thigh guySep 25, 20192 votes

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I fucking love you thx for actually having a decent brain we need more humans like you on earth

No I’m definitely right. Considering I’m not struggling as rhaast at all.

BultzSep 25, 20192 votes

[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Tz64JvqT,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-09-25T01:10:14.634+0000)

I hate to inform you that rhaast is in a perfect state right now

He isn’t broken but he’s far from weak.

If you’re having damage issues as rhaast then you are choosing him into the wrong enemy team. The only buff this champion needs is bug fixes.

This coming from a Kayn one trick.

Sorry you're wrong. He needs buffs.

BestFioraEUSep 24, 20191 votes

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Blue form kayn is fine, but Rhaast needs some upgrades. His damage is pretty bad and his sustain isn't as great as you'd imagine. The only thing he has going for him is his w and unless you're ahead with him you're instantly behind. Like he needs buffs. Also please ffs increase him ms. It feel so bad to play while he runs like my grandmother. Rhaast is struggling too hard, I find while playing him and watching others play him, against tanks and bruisers... the ones he is supposed to counter..

His damage is good enough and he's stronger than blue kayn, blue kayn deals highest amount of damage in the lowest amount of time but red kayn deals A LOT more damage in the overall fight.

Does not need a buff.

XavanicSep 24, 20191 votes

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His damage is good enough and he's stronger than blue kayn, blue kayn deals highest amount of damage in the lowest amount of time but red kayn deals A LOT more damage in the overall fight.

Does not need a buff.

he doesn't need damage, he needs survivability, even when ahead he gets bursted too easily due to his lack of natural mitigation and the fact every champ in the game can build grievous wounds w/o losing anything, making his passive a lot less viable for survivability

BestFioraEUSep 25, 20191 votes

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he doesn't need damage, he needs survivability, even when ahead he gets bursted too easily due to his lack of natural mitigation and the fact every champ in the game can build grievous wounds w/o losing anything, making his passive a lot less viable for survivability

You're dumb as fuck if you think he needs more survivability his R literally gives him not only % heal but the healing from runes and he's also a tank + tank shredder. The only thing he needs is nerf on the damage and % heal not a fucking buff

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XavanicSep 25, 20194 votes

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You're dumb as fuck if you think he needs more survivability his R literally gives him not only % heal but the healing from runes and he's also a tank + tank shredder. The only thing he needs is nerf on the damage and % heal not a fucking buff

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His survival is countered by an 800 gold item....or a 1k gold item...he's no where near a tank, he dies in 2 seconds even if he goes full tank, plus he has no hp/defensive scaling in his kit, making full tank less viable, overall red kayn is shit rn, I NEVER seen them do well, they always end up feeding because he WANTS to be a tank but he is too inheritly squishy to be even considered a viable choice, blue kayn is literally the only viable path you can go, if his animations weren't so slow/over-dramatic he might be viable, but in his current state, im gonna say no, red kayn is actual trash rn, it's hard to get proper statistics though since Also tank shredder? only if the tank is too stupid to buy armor, 2 armor items and his damage is literally non-existent, % dmg is heavily countered by armor, tanks like rammus/malph will literally laugh at him, might actually be better to give him flat damage since only 1 - 2 tanks stack health to the point where its decent w/o stacking much armor

BestFioraEUSep 25, 20191 votes

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His survival is countered by an 800 gold item....or a 1k gold item...he's no where near a tank, he dies in 2 seconds even if he goes full tank, plus he has no hp/defensive scaling in his kit, making full tank less viable, overall red kayn is shit rn, I NEVER seen them do well, they always end up feeding because he WANTS to be a tank but he is too inheritly squishy to be even considered a viable choice, blue kayn is literally the only viable path you can go, if his animations weren't so slow/over-dramatic he might be viable, but in his current state, im gonna say no, red kayn is actual trash rn, it's hard to get proper statistics though since Also tank shredder? only if the tank is too stupid to buy armor, 2 armor items and his damage is literally non-existent, % dmg is heavily countered by armor, tanks like rammus/malph will literally laugh at him, might actually be better to give him flat damage since only 1 - 2 tanks stack health to the point where its decent w/o stacking much armor

ARE YOU READING WHAT I AM TYPING MATE HIS DAMAGE IS % OF THEIR HP AND HIS R CAN STILL BE USED WHEN GREVIOUS WOUNDS IS OUT GOD FUCK

You are the most dumbfound human i have seen in this thread holy smoke

I have played kayn and i can tell you one thing about kayn and that is grevious wounds is fucking irrelevant i have 400k on him on another account and fuck sake grevious wounds is fucking u s e l e s s

His survivability is higher than most champions in the game His E is literally a heal and a thing you walk through walls with his q can be used to get over walls his w is a knockup his R is a massive heal how much shit are you not getting inside of ur head right now it's simple math to understand this, you're the most typical silver NA player i have seen.

And red kayn is not squishy AT ALL that's the most dumbfound quote i have seen yet.

And oh god you triggered me with - ''Also tank shredder? only if the tank is too stupid to buy armor, 2 armor items and his damage is literally non-existent, % dmg is heavily countered by armor, tanks like rammus/malph will literally laugh at him, might actually be better to give him flat damage since only 1 - 2 tanks stack health to the point where its decent w/o stacking much armor'' - Red deals % HEALTH NOT ARMOR H E A L T H a tank is suppose to buy HEALTH He counters people like irelia malp rammus alistar leona braum you get my fucking point mate it's easy quit math you don't understand

God if i see you complain about this you're the most dumbfound human on earth

XavanicSep 25, 20191 votes

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ARE YOU READING WHAT I AM TYPING MATE HIS DAMAGE IS % OF THEIR HP AND HIS R CAN STILL BE USED WHEN GREVIOUS WOUNDS IS OUT GOD FUCK

You are the most dumbfound human i have seen in this thread holy smoke

I have played kayn and i can tell you one thing about kayn and that is grevious wounds is fucking irrelevant i have 400k on him on another account and fuck sake grevious wounds is fucking u s e l e s s

His survivability is higher than most champions in the game His E is literally a heal and a thing you walk through walls with his q can be used to get over walls his w is a knockup his R is a massive heal how much shit are you not getting inside of ur head right now it's simple math to understand this, you're the most typical silver NA player i have seen.

And red kayn is not squishy AT ALL that's the most dumbfound quote i have seen yet.

And oh god you triggered me with - ''Also tank shredder? only if the tank is too stupid to buy armor, 2 armor items and his damage is literally non-existent, % dmg is heavily countered by armor, tanks like rammus/malph will literally laugh at him, might actually be better to give him flat damage since only 1 - 2 tanks stack health to the point where its decent w/o stacking much armor'' - Red deals % HEALTH NOT ARMOR H E A L T H a tank is suppose to buy HEALTH He counters people like irelia malp rammus alistar leona braum you get my fucking point mate it's easy quit math you don't understand

God if i see you complain about this you're the most dumbfound human on earth

stop trying to insult me, its against the fourm guidelines
he's shit rn, last time i played him i was 6/1 and changed forums and when i ended off the game i was 6/9 because i literally just died the moment i went into a fight, this is with death's dance and tank
health has been nerfed so much most tanks only hit 3-4k, kayns Q deals around 15% max health, which is severely reduced by armor, meaning he is only dealing maybe 5-6% of their max health total per Q
if the truth triggers you that much maybe you should be playing something else?

nchdsbzioudyhpouOct 24, 20191 votes

Thanks for talking after playing kayn, the rest of the people are silvers who don't even played kayn.

Tr4shB4NSYST3MSep 25, 20191 votes

Rhast is situationally a very good champ. Into an enemy team comp w/ mutliple tanky champs, eg: Leona / Alistar / Braum support, Sejuani / Warwick / tank JarvanIV or Amumu , and a tanky toplaner he will be huge in teamfights b/c his Q and Ult will have 3 tanky targets to heal off of.

But into a team of maybe a tanky support and 4 bursty/high damage champions red kayn will probably get smashed. To know when to go red kayn you have to understand that his sustain scales off of how much HP the enemy champions build.

Hope this helped :)

nchdsbzioudyhpouOct 24, 20191 votes

Bro, ww is a hard counter of rhaast, ik cause i have played both champs, ww has better health and his e gives he a damage reduction, his w gives he a lot of damage, and he can health a lot with q and r cause that abilities health a lot, more than kayn's r on mid-game.

nchdsbzioudyhpouOct 24, 20191 votes

I think that rhaast has a very goo late but he sucks a lot on mid game, u need ur team helps for a fcking 1 vs 1, u have a shit movility and ur health is still TOOOOOOOOOOOO LOOOOOOWWWWWW, so if ur lanes are losing u can't do absolutly nothing. Olaf Malphite MasterYi Cassiopeia Warwick Volibear Trundle Renekton Ekko there are some champs that counter rhaast mid game very very easily. I'm OTP kayn 360K mastery.