The biggest reason why Armpen adc builds are optimal.

MunchCrunchLunch·Sep 12, 2016·8 votes·1,019 views

turrets now have armor. in which. flat armor pen works against it. you get armor and ad. they go down. so damn quickly.

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WoonStruckSep 12, 20166 votes

Its also Fervor adding effectively 33% bonus damage or more in fights at any given point in the game for pen builds. There's that too.

IcyPepperSep 12, 20164 votes

Sometimes I wonder if turrets should be immune to penetration, and/or have their armor/MR removed completely and health rescaled appropriately.

The reason ADC's should be able to take towers quickly is a combination of AD and AS. AD assassins and armpen ADC builds should not have that advantage if they're sacrificing DPS for raw burst.

Warlord ZudaneSep 12, 20161 votes

Does penetration work on turrets? That seems messed up. Maybe adding some turret penetration to some items and making armor penetration not work on turrets would be good I think.

Sire HippingtonSep 12, 20163 votes

That was the case earlyer in the season when everyone complained about turrets beeing usless. The idea was to give them high base armor, so mages and their arpen scale well vs towers, same for ad-assasins and theri flatpen, while marksmen, that by default have huge tower dps from as+ad, get no aditional scaleing as the %bonus-pen doesn't work on towers.

So the basic idea behind changeing towers back to armor/mr+hp was to normalize the dmage vs towers between classes a bit, which imo was a good call.

SpoofghoulSep 12, 20162 votes

You dont give up damage vs squishies but gain massive damage vs tanks

you also dont lose out on other stats like cdr attackspeed

and ofc bonus turret damage

more burst

and fervor

its far superior for the first 4 items more equal but still better at 5 but only if the 5 item critbuild has a lastwhisper

Sire HippingtonSep 12, 20162 votes

Actually, the biggest reason is that earlygame is very important this season and pen builts have a much stronger 1 and 2 item spike than crit builts, and damage overall is so damn high that you still can deal easily with tanks later on, though you do have some issues at 3-4 items if you don't get ahead with the strong early. Fervor also adds alot to it, it's so much free physical damage that obviously scales with arpen but not with crit.

More damage vs towers certainly makes pen built more attractive aswell.

Bladerunner7777Sep 12, 20161 votes

makes sense to me

LordGeovanniSep 12, 20161 votes

i dont even see adcs hit towers but thats just me if you have adcs that too share some of your lick with me. no matter how the enemy is dead we make a human wall to zone off the enemy i almost never see my adc hit a tower unless its already 85% done and they want tower last hit and you cant fight them for it cause they have more damage and attack speed than any one else on the team