Veigar buff ideas

Vallalan··2 votes·771 views

Veigar is one of those champs that is really fun to play but takes a bit of time to ramp up. he scales super hard and is a late game monster but even at the height of his power still has glaring weaknesses with immobility and being super vulnerable to any form of focus since his range is actually not that big.

the problem with Veigar is you really don't want to buff his early game TOO much because then he has no time in the game he is not strong. and for a champion who scales so hard that would be unacceptable. (i mean look at 6.3 kog maw, last season vayne/jinx, and azir until recent nerfs for examples of what happens a scaling champ is strong early or even average early)

So I have a couple different ideas that I feel could make him a lot stronger while not necessarily touching his weaknesses.

1.) Change event horizon stun duration to the same at all ranks so Veigar players do not have to max this second. this would also allow players to get their combo off when they successfully land a stun early. Right now, if you play veigar if you land an early stun unless you were fully committed and super close range to begin with you are not going to be able to land your W since the stun duration is not long enough. The stun is already tricky to land in lane so I think it wouldn't put him over the edge. it would make him stronger for sure since he can max his W second and have more damage while not buffing his late game whatsoever

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2.) Change Q cooldown to 5 seconds at all ranks. Right now stacking in lane can be tricky at times. You are encouraged to trade now which is nice since hitting a champ with your Q still grants you ap, but its cooldown is so long its often times better to just double stack on minions or go for the weird as hell hit a minion and try to hit the champ as well which against good players is not easy to do. Lowering the cooldown early just allows you to get more stacks faster and doesn't make him necessarily too much stronger early, just allows you to trade more which would be nice since Veigar is weak early, but not trading at all feels really really shitty.

9 Comments

Gamer Girl Katie2 votes

buff? you mean nerf right? he'll one shot you 15 minutes in

Astôlfo1 votes

He doesn't need buffs nor nerfs. And if you get oneshot 15m in, that's your fault.

Fuh Queue2 votes

Veigar and buff in the same sentence? Please warn me before posting stuff like this, I almost hurled my lunch.

Astôlfo2 votes

He doesn't need buffs. He's doing just fine.

AdeBug1 votes

buff? i see first time veigars snowball easily in aram even if they have a rough start... u 4 real?

Embertine1 votes

Well they always have snowballs don't they?

AdeBug1 votes

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Well they always have snowballs don't they?

funny?

Embertine1 votes

Didn't he just get a buff or is getting one this coming patch?

Villainous V1 votes

Or we could leave veigar as he is. He's fine. The problem with what you're suggesting is that you give a late game hyper carry a stronger early game and if they do that they'd have to nerf his mid or late game to compensate, and we all know how bad riot is with that. Leave him be. If you want more CDR for Q get the runes and the %5 cdr mastery. And we max stun second because as long as you farm up your stacks W should hurt even without too many points into it.

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