Did anybody else look at Ivern before release and go...
"Yeah this champion is never going to be viable."
I mean if they make somebody with those tools viable, it will break professional play. Therefore he will never be viable.
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Mistress Shyvana3 votesHe's just another 
, useless for solo play but godly in a coordinated team.
Hell Week1 votes[{quoted}](name=Mistress Shyvana,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Tl147l2u,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-10-10T21:01:40.083+0000)
He's just another
omg i think youre the first person i see to realize that. AMEN ITS GOING TO RAIN TODAY
AttackOnTeemos3 votesI have stolen soo many red buffs from the other team, and ganked top in under a min after everyone spawns at level 2 and got first blood so many times. He is LCS tier.
I promise you get a team that understands him, he is going to be that one junglar that just can go where he wants..also double buffs for the teammates....even if his teammates kill the golem he still gets a buff.
Woodakoodashooda2 votesWell, when you put it that way and since you said it, it must be true!
Ralanr1 votesIt's on the internet after all!
DREADN0UGHT1 votesTbh I thought the champ was garbotrash until today. I had the pleasure of playing against a very good Ivern player (for whats its currently worth).
He ganked my lane at level 2, and if he lands his skill shot, its gg..
Mistress Shyvana1 votesTbh I thought the champ was garbotrash until today. I had the pleasure of playing against a very good Ivern player (for whats its currently worth).
He ganked my lane at level 2, and if he lands his skill shot, its gg..
He can gank terrifyingly early because he clears red/blue in litterally 1 second at full hp. so here comes a lv 2 
while everyone else is lv1 with red or blue buff.
Although i normally don't gank lv 2, i counter jungle hard i mark my camps, go to enemy buff smite steal it then go back to my jungle and collect the now "baked" camps
Zielmann1 votesIt takes him 42.5 seconds minimum to get the first camp and reach 2.
Sightless661 votesPeople said the same thing about Bard, and he's perfectly viable in solo queue. He's also competitively strong without being overbearing.
Swiftstrike41 votesI have only played with one Ivern who was relevant and didn't feed horrendously.
I have also played with or against one new ryze who did not feed horrendously.
TyrekGoldenspear1 votesEh, Bard was gamebreaking (mechanics wise) on release. Still viable.
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