at least increase his weakness instead of buchering his strength. reduce the range of his ulti, the projectile speed or increase the cooldown. Don't do ANY DAMAGE NERF, his E can be dodged just by walking and veigar can't catch long range mages, if you do this he will be 5.4 Kassadin.
Sire Hippington4 voteshonestly, the most obvious way to nerf him would be lowering the stupid enemie-ap ratio on his ult...
CrazedPorcupine5 votesOr removing it entirely and increasing the AP ratio from his own AP to compensate (up to 1.2 or 1.3. I'd personally prefer 1.5, but hey, I'm not incharge of balance)
Diananmen Square1 votesHe's an anti-AP mid laner, not an anti-all.
Penns3 votesSeems more like an anti- juggernaut, anti- carry, anti- meta, anti- everything, with a random enemy AP scaling thrown onto his ult to make him even more broken lel.
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He's an anti-AP mid laner, not an anti-all.
no, only his ulti interact with the mage
kassadin has silence (0.1 sec) infinity mana mobility 15% damage reduction
world don't need 2 anti mage
CrazedPorcupine2 votesKassadin is the anti-mage, Veigar is the infinite scaling AP BURST MAGE.
Sire Hippington1 voteswell, the idea is to tone him down, not buff him, so 1.2 should be it at max...
Chuck Charles1 votesOr removing it entirely and increasing the AP ratio from his own AP to compensate (up to 1.2 or 1.3. I'd personally prefer 1.5, but hey, I'm not incharge of balance)
for perspective, you are asking for 30% increase on all non ap targets and only a 50% reduced dmg vs ap targets assuming they have similar ap to veigar. which they wont.
veigar can have upwards of 1k ap come late game and I've seen games where he's had 1.6k. his ult at this point is already an instant delete on anyone, this would just make it happen even sooner. veigar needs some stage of hte game where he's vulnerable besides they very very early levels.
I think veigar is honestly in a fine spot, its just that his ap scales too fast with the Q currently. make that slow down a bit and his ratios are fine. he's always been the insta gib late game monster. but now his mid game is insane with the Q being able to get two at once as well as the AP per assist now. bigger issue being Q being able to get two at once.
alfavhunter1 votesRemove the enemy ap scaling on his R make his R stun the target struck for .1 second + .1 per 75 ap the enemy has (makes his R also work as an interrupt and turn into a stun for late game allowing him to R then W E Q without the target able to move based on how much ap they have for how reliable the rest of his kit will land
This gives him anti Mage ability without it being all damage, his kit becomes more reliable vs ap enemies
BeMyFriendPlease1 votesMake him energy, give him two blinks, make his ult instead of ap ratio, 50% delayed over time.
Oh wait thats zed if he were ap.
Hell nerf him all you want. GIVE HIM BLINKS.