Why does Xayah feel so bad?

RAT IN GAME UwU ·Jan 14, 2019·1 votes·2,878 views

You MUST get ahead with her early to feel strong, and it seems like late she is unable to carry, if you're landing E's with like 10+ feathers you shouldn't be doing maybe 1/4 of their health and rooting, it just feels like there's no real reward, she can be pretty strong up close with W active and some crit but that's like 3 items in, and by then anything will just blow you up, and so you ult... E and the feathers do jack...

what was nerfed that made her so bad feeling? was it the ER and IE changes? i remember her build path used to be IE boots ER or reverse etc then attack speed, now it's way less damage and crit and utility early and similar crit / damage mid to late

6 Comments

IllabetheJan 14, 20192 votes

Quite simply? Her entire kit was designed around the old item 3508 , and then it was plucked from her a year ago. Now you need 2 items to effectively get the same benefits of one, and neither of those core items have CDR.

At the same time, if you reworked her to mitigate this problem, you'd probably end up with a variant build emerging from the shadows that is more powerful than the Meta, becoming the new meta with a high win rate to boot. She doesn't have a handbook for success, like most adcs.

ParoeJan 14, 20191 votes

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Quite simply? Her entire kit was designed around the old , and then it was plucked from her a year ago. Now you need 2 items to effectively get the same benefits of one, and neither of those core items have CDR.

At the same time, if you reworked her to mitigate this problem, you'd probably end up with a variant build emerging from the shadows that is more powerful than the Meta, becoming the new meta with a high win rate to boot. She doesn't have a handbook for success, like most adcs.

I dont feel thats true, honestly. Go mana flow band and her mana issues are generally solved. If anything essence reaver needs to be reverted back into a crit+lifesteal item. Heck, id love; item 1051 (400g)+ (400g) + item 3144 (1500g) + 600g for 20% crit, 15AD, 10 lifesteal, and 1% of mana gained on crit. Would be a niche item, but incredibly useful on people who can make use of it.

As for her poor gamefeel, its due to storm razor. item 1038 into item 3086 item of choice, then finish your IE is the better start for Xayah honestly. She was designed around crit, and storm razor just doesnt work with her.

IllabetheJan 14, 20192 votes

You just argued the wrong reason.

The 20% Crit on the old Essence modifed her E damage by 20 damage per feather. In other words, it amplified a solid hit by 100 damage.

The 20% CDR + outside crit guaranteed it was up more often and there were more feathers to fly.

It wasn't about the Mana.

And then you went around and agreed with me while saying "You don't feel that's true" by pointing out Zeal + BF sword.

On Net, the Crit/CDR Essence offered more than that BF Sword + Zeal.

ParoeJan 15, 20191 votes

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You just argued the wrong reason.

The 20% Crit on the old Essence modifed her E damage by 20 damage per feather. In other words, it amplified a solid hit by 100 damage.

The 20% CDR + outside crit guaranteed it was up more often and there were more feathers to fly.

It wasn't about the Mana.

And then you went around and agreed with me while saying "You don't feel that's true" by pointing out Zeal + BF sword.

On Net, the Crit/CDR Essence offered more than that BF Sword + Zeal.

THe

line functions like a paragraph. It separates two different things in the same post. My post about essence reaver is NOT about xayah and essence reaver, its about a lack of another 20% crit item to give marksmen a 3 item core. Ive made several threads on that line.

Xayah does not have mana problems once you stack up your mana flow band, which you should be taking on mana hungry champions in general.

Crispy0SnakeJan 14, 20191 votes

https://youtu.be/vkiRVPzXT6c

If you look at Xayah at 37:40, and you'll see a lot of this of Xayah at 2018 worlds, she flashes foward in a teamfight onto squishies and just 2 shots them while also dealing dmg to those in the line of her empowered autos.

To make a tf work with her you either need enemies to funnel into you or you flash forward onto squishies from what I've seen