Increase their damage but at the same time add damage reduction to the jungle items. I don't want to go back to the time when it was really popular for laners to start camps to get an advantage, avoid weak level 1s, and double jungling. At the very least if players still do it, there needs to be more trade off since currently it doesn't feel like there is ldown sides to starting a camp.
Dessem1 votesit doesn't feel like there is little down sides to starting a camp.
So it feels like there's major downsides to starting a camp? There's already a trade-off that full-clear junglers lose out on exp/gold, and the laners are not at full health when they enter the lane.
Oakleaf Ranger1 votessry I that was a error, I meant there isn't much down side to starting a camp. Junglers do not lose gold, at least if they start on the other side. By the time they get to the camp that was cleared, it spawns before or just as they get to it. There are champions who can level 1 can clear a camp very fast while taking little damage, especially certain bot lane combos. 
is one of the best at doing this currently. Basically I really don't want to see this turn into whatever champions can level 1 a clear camp meta.
Handy Sandy 1 votesAs a level 10-15 Orianna, Syndra, or any other squishy midlaner I can easily lose 1/4 of my health if I don't kite blue buff. Anyway, what's even wrong with it? This would just make junglers have to recall more.
Catastrop1 votesLmao, I always thought I was just terrible at the game. I'm glad this happens to other people....well not glad in a bad way, just happy I'm not the only one.
Oakleaf Ranger1 votesIt wouldn't affect junglers since the jungle component/item would have damage reduction from jungle creeps. It affects the laners who want do a camp at level 1, which if done correctly has little down sides depending on the champion.
Handy Sandy 1 votesIt wouldn't affect junglers since the jungle component/item would have damage reduction from jungle creeps. It affects the laners who want do a camp at level 1, which if done correctly has little down sides depending on the champion.
Limiting them to only junglers? If someone needs to catch up or something, or their lane is pushed and don't want to overextend they take a raptor or two. There's no real problem with this.
Oakleaf Ranger1 votesI don't think you understand what I'm talking about. I'm literally talking about the LEVEL 1 camp clear. This change would have little impact past that. This doesn't effect players who want to take camps when not in lane.