Please make Stormrazor and Duskblade not stack on eachother
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Rengar says Hi. 
R- Jump Q- More Dmg Duskblade- Even more Dmg Dark harvest - Yo dawg we heard you like damage. Stormrazor - Dmg and no escape cuz they fast now. Spellsword - Trinity force cuz more Q damage. Infinity Edge + Shiv - free true Dmg. Shoes. Cuz.. shoes.
Rengar wont build that build ever
It will be
Stormrazor 
Maybe even take out Stormrazor for new
if he reaches full build
building hydra + black cleaver seems fucking retarded fam
He would never need your build.
Duskblade is common enough on him, he's an assassin.
Trinity I've never seen on him, but seems like it could work.
And Stormrazer would give him an automatic 1k damage auto, since it's actually feasible to pass 500 AD on a high-AD build.
DH isn't unreasonable for him to take, although I'd imagine he'd just go Electrocute anyways.
You're looking at a potential instant 2-3k damage. No more ".27 seconds", you'll just see ".02 seconds".
This item does look good but I don't know that it will become a standard item on all assassins. Wukong for example, I'm thinking he will just go DB-GB-LDR-ER-Hydra/GA/dependent-Boots.
It might fall in that dependent slot if you're really ahead, but I think there are better choices. With that changes to LW it doesn't seem necessary or as efficient as other choices.
At full build with total armor pen on top of lethality, I just can't justify buying this. Its overkill and gives AS which is useless-
Everyone here seems worried about it, but if you really want to worry about the assassins go look at the LDR and GA changes. That's what's going to delete you quicker and more consistently.
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Rengar says Hi.
R- Jump Q- More Dmg Duskblade- Even more Dmg Dark harvest - Yo dawg we heard you like damage. Stormrazor - Dmg and no escape cuz they fast now. Spellsword - Trinity force cuz more Q damage. Infinity Edge + Shiv - free true Dmg. Shoes. Cuz.. shoes.
Many problems with your build. Rengar needs to rush a hydra to farm effectively. Rengar never builds shiv, and never would want to. Terrible idea. No Rengar will build IE after it's change. You will rarely see them build it even now as a last item. Rengar generally doesnt build trinity force. Its too expensive for what you get out of it. Black cleaver is preferred by good Rengar players.
Rengar also needs lots of lethality to do his job. He is poor at sustained damage and survivability. You'll never want to build just one armor pen item.
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not to mention his leap auto doesn't trigger stormrazor. youmuus did a stormrazor rengar video, and it never triggered until his first auto after leaping. statikk crit would be unreliable at best
sounds like a fun, gimmicky build to do in norms tho
That was an acknowledged bug and they supposedly fixed it
Many problems with your build. Rengar needs to rush a hydra to farm effectively. Rengar never builds shiv, and never would want to. Terrible idea. No Rengar will build IE after it's change. You will rarely see them build it even now as a last item. Rengar generally doesnt build trinity force. Its too expensive for what you get out of it. Black cleaver is preferred by good Rengar players.
Rengar also needs lots of lethality to do his job. He is poor at sustained damage and survivability. You'll never want to build just one armor pen item.
its not meant to be effecient, its "How much damage can i stack onto my ONE auto attack off of ulti jump"
I think it would be more fun on wukong, Q with the yo dawg damage build (duskblade+TF+stormrazor+Dharvest) then use the new ult movespeed rune to spin away for style points.
Except Dark Harvest is sub optimal at best on Wu.
Id say 
Cries in Soraka So many carries I wont be able to protect . . .
oh god plz... these needs to be under the same "unique" name
oh god plz... these needs to be under the same "unique" name
"Unique Passive - Advantage:" ez pz
Let it stack with Trinity Force too
mmmmmm
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Let it stack with Trinity Force too
mmmmmm
It does and Empowered attacks.
This is a good point, and more generally, I feel Stormrazor, Duskblade, Statikk Shiv and Rapid Firecannon should all simply cause the triggering attack to critically strike, rather than add bonus damage. Each of these effects could have their own touch (Stormrazor would grant a steroid, Duskblade would slow when used by a melee champion, Shiv would deal secondary damage to more targets, Firecannon would have increased range), but wouldn't overlap with each other in the upfront burst they'd provide.
Edit: CPU Lyrica also raised a good point on Sheen and its upgrades, and it might be interesting to have Sheen grant the same kind of buff as above upon casting a spell, i.e. each Sheen proc would instead be a guaranteed critical strike. Lich Bane could have the added bonus of adding an AP ratio to the damage, and Iceborn Gauntlet would have its AoE/slow. This might affect Ezreal a bit weirdly, since he'd have to decide whether to drop the item interaction with Q, or simply have his Q be able to crit (with appropriate rebalancing, obviously), but otherwise this could prevent any champion from stacking front-loaded damage via items.
Or...remove Duskblade and don't release Stormrazor?
So remove Duskblade and forget about Stormrazor, get out of here dude.
I'm so building it with Dark Harvest, Statik Shiv, Duskblade and Trinity in ARAM on Wukong.
They said that they want to balance it, but that they will just make them not work with eachother if need be. So it looks like they are fully prepared to do this if they must.
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No. Dont bind up variety and flexibility when there is no proven reason to.
You will do less overall damage if you give up a secondary lethality item for only a single crit. Most assassins cannot make effective use of an attack speed amp so its wasted gold.
The only outlier here is Rengar. He might build it, but only because his kit is designed to stick around after the engage and keep auto attacking the target.
But, even then, there's no guarantee that Rengar will want it. Whether or not he actually builds it will still depend on what testing shows. He may very well still do more damage with a second armor pen item.
+stormraiders.
1 shot 1 kill
I thought Stormraiders was removed from the game.[sg-lux-2]
And Khazix rarely ever buys a Trinity Force. Stormrazor and Duskblade are the main core items because he can proc them numerous times in quick succession.
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1 shot 1 kill
You will not kill anyone with one shot using thay build on Rengar and Khazix. I don't play Shaco so I wont comment about him.
That would be a garbage build on them both. For reasons I already listed in this thread.
You're actually losing burst by not having lethality to amp your ability damage, and giving up AD in exchange for AS/Crit. It doesnt work on zix. It can work on rengar only because he is designed to hang around and auto attack after the engagement, but even then its of questionable value. Mathematically you will get more instant burst with rengar going full lethality. You're trading burst damage for more sustained dps, but Rengar is not the best suited for that fighter playstyle.
I dont see why they dont just make the passive ranged only.
cuz melee crit users, yasuo, trynda, yi...
They have expressed fears about this and are looking at solutions.
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Us assassin players have been waiting in the shadow for along time and now it is our time to come out.
Then the items just compete with each other on who is more broken at the same job. Plus GP just abuses it (when GP is already really strong top lane).
As a assassin main, Yes, stormblade+duskblade is overpowered together. I think they should make duskblade melee and stormblade ranged.