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Fiddlesticks is too good as a support...

Ulquiorra0123··2 votes·2,782 views

So here I am trying to get nerfs for a champion I am spamming right now. To put this into perspective I do most or 2nd most damage every game, combined with the fact I had never played Fiddlesticks before 2 weeks ago, and now I have a 70% win rate on the champion, when I can't even achieve that on my main champion.

The fact I can walk into lane and spam my E on CD without any mana cost is really dumb, like stupidly broken, combine that with scorch and comet and it is ridiculous how much damage you can rack up over the course of just laning phase. Not only that but he also transitions into an excellent teamfight champion with no real counter other than 100-0 in under a second before I can click Zhonyas. The games that I have lost have either been to someone who AFK'd midway through the match, or an ADC who doesn't play the position at all. I would probably have a 90% win rate across 30 games if this wasn't the case.

It feels absolutely disgusting to play, but I play it because you don't need a good ADC to win the lane and then proceed to win the game, you just need to do your thing, you might get fed which is an autowin, or you don't and you roll the dice on whether you get good ultis off. Either way, one single teamfight will win you the game. This champ is beyond ridiculous, I should not be able to find success in a role I don't ever play, on a champion I don't ever play.

All of this being said, why has this champion not been nerfed since he became so damn good?

8 Comments

Jamaree1 votes

Fiddlesticks isn't a support, he is a mage that can't cut it mid or jungle anymore so the one place he can work as a damage "support." Side note, his counter is vision. A good team is going to ward and deny his ability to ulti and you are also doing well with him because he is easy and you are playing as a mid to low silver level according to your MMR.

Ulquiorra01231 votes

Yeah you try to disengage a renekton, cass and trist gunning you down if you didn't pick good disengage, I do not have to ult from a place with no vision, I can ult after the fight starts :)

Also his most played position is support, and has the #1 win rate for a couple months now, so I would say hes a support :)

Jamaree1 votes

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Yeah you try to disengage a renekton, cass and trist gunning you down if you didn't pick good disengage, I do not have to ult from a place with no vision, I can ult after the fight starts :)

Then they were bad for not winning the fight prior to you not doing anything for the first chunk of it.

Also his most played position is support, and has the #1 win rate for a couple months now, so I would say hes a support :)

No, he isn't a support, a support is a champion that can aid their ally, provide protection, heals, damage increases, etc. Fiddlesticks is a mage that doesn't work anywhere else but the support role.

Ulquiorra01231 votes

Support is a position :) He currently plays in that position making him a Support. You can try to get technical on people to try and prove a moot point but regardless of him being a mage, he still plays in that position. By your definition there are only like 6 champions that are supports because they help their ally with a shield or heal xD

As for being bad for not winning the fight prior to me using ultimate: its sad that you think all fights must end in 2 seconds or people are bad... (note I do the same thing in D4, it works, fights don't end in 2 seconds like you think they do).

Jamaree1 votes

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Support is a position :) He currently plays in that position making him a Support. You can try to get technical on people to try and prove a moot point but regardless of him being a mage, he still plays in that position. By your definition there are only like 6 champions that are supports because they help their ally with a shield or heal xD

Yeah actually, Brand isn't a support, Zyra isn't a support, Sion isn't a support, they are champions who are outclassed by other champions in their intended role so fit better as support. So we shouldn't nerf champions for being good at an off role, because then they would be ok as support, and even more shit at what they were actually meant to be.

As for being bad for not winning the fight prior to me using ultimate: its sad that you think all fights must end in 2 seconds or people are bad... (note I do the same thing in D4, it works, fights don't end in 2 seconds like you think they do).

I very much don't believe the D4 part, but if you can ulti in the open and the opponent doesn't stop you, they deserve to lose the teamfight anyway.

Jmman1 votes

Well if you fear Renekton he can still dash stun melee you. That is the way fear works. It doesn't stop animations.

Jmman1 votes

First there is two things about fiddle. He goes against standard playstyle and he has no damage if you know what to do.

I play a lot of fiddle. But I also never lose when they pick fiddle either. Because I know the champ and his weakness. Fiddle have really never been meta and still kinda isn't. Fiddle is picked because he can shut a diver late game. And since its one shot or be one shot, fiddle gives your carry the chance to hit first.

Fiddle has an extra low mana pool with high costing spells. You can beat him by mana or by CC. Fiddle is only does good damage in ult or if he can bounce crows and drain you with being CC. You can bait the spells. Example why do people run back when he throws a crow? Run at him. All he can do is fear you at early levels. Then he has nothing for 10 secs. Fiddle is sooooo easy to gank. Fear doesn't stop animations. Any jungler or CC with an animation can use it to "eat" fear and still do everything.

Yea keep on post because you beat up on some silver nubs. Wait until you play against good people that bait your spells and know when to dive you. Fiddle has counter picks too. Alistar Blitzcrank Karma Morgana Nami Pyke Leona can destroy you if you don't know what your doing. But since you don't people against better people they don't spread out from the crows. They don't dive you after you cast crows because now 50% to 90% of you damage is gone levels 1-3. Because they don't ward for your ult. Because they keep pushing your turret knowing your mia as support. This isn't you being good. Its your being worst people that dont' understand how he is play.

Play me so I can rick roll you over and over. Its like you not know Alistar headbutt knock combo and keep dying. Or not understandingPyke kit or how Morgana black shield works and then coming on the boards to complain. You leave out the strongest things about fiddle support and only talk about things that work on noobs and lower levels. Karmas Q is equal to 2 or 3 bats. (depending on if "R") same with Brand. Brand point and click dot does a lot more damage. Then you can Ult in team fights but that leaves no one to protect your carry. Anyone with a dash or CC can destroy your ult.

Annoying yes. OP no, not by any means. Just because he is great against the Mages and non-tank support doesn't mean he doesn't have counters or weakness.

You match history shows you beating up on Brand and soraka Those are people he counters. Everything else is 3's which doesn't matter in balance of the rift. Such a troll post...…..

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