Wheres Talons buff Riot

ccseancc143··6 votes·874 views

Pls, give Talon some love.

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Marthian3 votes

Can't really speak for Talon's state of balance (lolking stated his winrate is 51~%)

But he is never getting his silence back.

Constantine223 votes

Its that high because those few who play Talon they actually love him. they dont play him because he is Flavor of the month. when i see a talon player i know that he knows how to play him. Thats why he was unpopular. he is a bad champ in general because of no escapes. so people who want to win play zed/fizz/leblanc/kassadin... all the safe picks. those who pick Talon pick him because they like him. not because of his 1 second silence -_- he always had that silence. noone complained. but now that all other silences were removed from HIGHLY MOBILE ASSASSINS he became flavor of the month. and Talon is not a HIGH MOBILE ASSASSIN. He is the only assassin with only one gap closer. what kind of assassin survives with only one gap closer? how whould a zed do if he didnt have his W but only his ult to go in? the moment the enemy dashed away he whould become useless for the rest of the fight. BUT HE HAS HIS W. Talon has nothing. without the silence he IS useless. That winrate you saw is gonna fall extremely fast. Kassadin and leblanc didnt NEED silence. they go in and if something goes bad the go back out. Talon cant back out. so he needs the silence to stick to his target. and that 0.25 seconds slow wont make him stick to his target. he is not a kassadin to chase people or a zed. RIOT doesnt want silence? then they should rework him so that he doesnt need one. make him have more mobility like zed leblanc fizz and kassadin and then everything will be fine. But they dont care. they dont even play Talon. if they did i whouldnt have to say all these things. they whouldnt just remove silence and leave him like that. they whould have made a rework. But they didnt. they dont know shit about the champion they themselves made. they added a slow just to buff his Q damage when he lands on them. they dont know that when Talon blinks to someone he first auto and THEN he Qs. But you cant do that in 0.25 seconds. the only think that is gonna get the 10% amp from his passive is the first auto. so its a nerf not a buff. because auto + Q does more damage than Q with slow applied. but if you try to do auto+q without the silence the enemy will just blink/dash away. same thing they did with the fix that made his E to blink to the far side of the target making W to hit easier. they thought thats a buff? its a nerf. if the enemy walks towards him and you E to do the auto+Q you only gonna land auto and Talon will try to chase to hit his Q because the target will be too far away. they dont know shit about talon. and also the fact that since release his E was bugged and didnt amplify his damage AT ALL? and they fixed it 1 YEAR LATER. they didnt know he was bugged until one year later???????

sorry for the runt. if you actually read all that then congratulations. you are the only one who did. Riot just doesnt care.

Zaikyo1 votes

Those people that love LeBlanc are the only ones still playing LeBlanc. Her winrate is still around 42-44%. I'm just saying, your first point is flawed. We can't draw anything from winrate. Talon could very well be weak, even with that 51% winrate in Diamond, but at least picking him doesn't feel like shooting yourself in the foot. Talon will survive.

Constantine222 votes

no he wont. he doesnt have enough tools to do his job as an assasin. every assassin needs to stick to their targets. zed has W AND R leblanc has W AND R fizz has E And Q Kassadin has his ult. everyone has more than one gap closer for a reason. talon's kit is around ONE gap closer. thats why he had the silence so that he can do his combo without needing another gap closer. without silence he needs a rework. they removed kassadins and leblancs silence but they can still get to people even if they dash/blink/flash your first initiation. talon cant do that. try E a shaco. try E an ezreal. you simply cant touch those squishys that Talon is suppose to counter.

wolfax1 votes

Talon has a blink and his ult which provides cover and movement speed.

Talon also isn't supposed to counter every carry. Ez is one the few that Talon doesn't just hard counter.

Also, you are flawed in your assumptions. You said that only people that main him play him now, but he's still just weak. How exactly is he weak is he's winning more often? Sure, there's a slight bump because of familiarity, but if he was actually weak he'd be below the 50% threshold. He's obviously strong enough to still be used more than effectively by those people.

Constantine223 votes

who said he wins more often? its still early to tell by win rate. and as i said stealth in general is not a good escape tool due to pink wards and red trinket. an assassin needs to have escapes if not then at least have a strong initiation. now he doesnt have any of that. blinks are good against skill shots yes but not targeted abilities. how am i gonna survive as a talon from syndras and lissandras and malzahars? if i E i get ulted. they just click me and their champion chases me. the moment i E on them i die. if i ult they put pink ward. zed for example will ulti and get ultied immediatly too but at least he can escape from that with his W shadow and he can ult back to his shadow. fizz can troll pole away. leblanc can W back. kassadin is kassadin. talon cant do any of that. at this moment Talon and Akali are the worst assassins in the game. at least akali can stick to her target but she still has no escapes. due to pink wards again. Talon cant escape AND cant stick to the enemy without a silence either. give his E 2 charges for example so that he could use it twice to stick to the enemy. no silence OR 0.25 seconds slow needed. or make his E after he uses it to get a 0.5 second stealth just in order to avoid targeted abilities in order not to die by using it. thats all i'm asking. safety. Talon was always a risky pick. he could do amazing damage BUT he wasnt safe. now he cant do his damage then at least make him more safe. his best role right now is probably gonna be top as a fighter. maxing Q and fighting melees while building health. and pray to god you dont get rivens as an enemy. -_-

CISTERN2 votes

Talon the champion that can lose to cassiopia lvl 5 even if he trades correctly, even if cassiopia has low ap ratios early even if cassi dont try to kite, even if talon has meele dps and do some auttoattackss too. Meele champion loses to a ranged scaling champion early, when ranged champion dont try to kite !Talon OP

CISTERN2 votes

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Talon the champion that can lose to cassiopia lvl 5 even if he trades correctly, even if cassiopia has low ap ratios early even if cassi dont try to kite, even if talon has meele dps and do some auttoattackss too. Meele champion loses to a ranged scaling champion early, when ranged champion dont try to kite !Talon OP and yes i managed the minion wave.

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