QOL Buff on Talon

ccseancc143··73 votes·2,530 views

Please make his W, Rake return to him even after death, after playing against Ekko and Ahri I have realized how much it actually helps because currently it just disappears after he dies. Its not asking for alot.

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MrBuffington29 votes

Also if his E could interrupt channels, that'd be great

Final Høur1 votes

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Also if his E could interrupt channels, that'd be great

his e used to be able to silence, but it got removed. I don't see why he needs it anyway

MrBuffington18 votes

Yea, Kassadin Q also used to silence; it still cancels channels right now. Talon's also a bit of an anti-mage, so it makes sense to me. There are a few match ups that Talon used to counter that just got flipped now; Katarina for instance.

Final Høur5 votes

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Yea, Kassadin Q also used to silence; it still cancels channels right now. Talon's also a bit of an anti-mage, so it makes sense to me. There are a few match ups that Talon used to counter that just got flipped now; Katarina for instance.

Talon still has insane burst. He's basically the ad Katarina if you think about it. Hell, he could probably burst someone down WITHIN the duration of his old silence

MrBuffington3 votes

I'm not saying anything about his damage, I'm just saying it makes sense to me if Talon's E cancels channels.

Final Høur1 votes

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I'm not saying anything about his damage, I'm just saying it makes sense to me if Talon's E cancels channels.

he really doesn't need it. burst them down while they're teleporting or something like that. Or if you have something that suppresses or stuns like malzahar or warwick, talon's e makes him go behind the target, your ult makes you invisible, THEY WON'T EVEN HAVE A CHANCE. :)

MrBuffington4 votes

I'm not saying it's necessary, we're just on the topic of QoL buffs for Talon, and this would help restore some previous match ups for Talon

Orbv1 votes

Actually if you are talon and you face malz or warwick, you can e during their ult and end up behind them and still suppressed. Also because malz has a delay before his ult kicks in, you can actually ult and still be suppressed and never actually go invisible. Malz's ult is cool that way.

Ironically it also works against him because you can CC him during his ult XD.

junglerboy161 votes

Absolutely. Having an assassin instantly appear behind you and press a giant blade to your throat would shut you up pretty quick, even if just for long enough to make you stop casting your spell.

MrBuffington1 votes

They still haven't changed the name from "Cutthroat" afterall, like they did for LeBlanc's Sigil of Silence Malice

Lowvyr1 votes

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his e used to be able to silence, but it got removed. I don't see why he needs it anyway

The silence is what made him so strong.

Final Høur1 votes

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The silence is what made him so strong.

so you're implying that talon is not strong anymore just because his silence is gone

Lowvyr1 votes

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so you're implying that talon is not strong anymore just because his silence is gone

Well I main him, so I would never say he's weak.

Dunkrius2g1 votes

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his e used to be able to silence, but it got removed. I don't see why he needs it anyway

Viktor's Ult used to Silence... So why does it have channel interruption? Kassadin's Q used to Silence.. So why does it stop channelled abilities?

So with all this, why doesn't riot give talon channel interruption? Because all the Kat mains will QQ.

doubleguac1 votes

I'd be fine with OP's suggestion, but I really don't think Talon needs an actual buff.

He definitely has a weakish laning phase, but his late game is super strong, and his burst damage comes out so fast that he is extremely difficult to peel. He's actually been blowing up in my games recently, and doing very well on average.

Dunkrius2g1 votes

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I'd be fine with OP's suggestion, but I really don't think Talon needs an actual buff.

He definitely has a weakish laning phase, but his late game is super strong, and his burst damage comes out so fast that he is extremely difficult to peel. He's actually been blowing up in my games recently, and doing very well on average.

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aaronautumn9 votes

should also continue if he uses zhonyas imo

idoki5 votes

Yea I hate it when it should proc off my item 3285 but it whiffs

TheDevice3 votes

he also needs some percent damage on his kit in light of the tank meta. I'd suggest Q as either does % damage based off enemies max health or allow his bleeds to deal % damage over time.

DarkSoulSlayer661 votes

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he also needs some percent damage on his kit in light of the tank meta. I'd suggest Q as either does % damage based off enemies max health or allow his bleeds to deal % damage over time.

I don't see why this has 4 down votes, I really agree with this it'd be cool.

Frius2 votes

ive asked this fix ,for thousand of times ,but no ,they didnt do it W AND R disappear in void cuz who who knows why even sivir q and ahri q return if dead /zhonya and ahri q is half truedmg

Fadedpf2 votes

While you're at it make auto attacks that are flying towards people finish if I die.

Haunt2 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/EEIs7Mni-can-we-make-talons-rake-w-come-back-to-him-after-he-is-dead

Already tried this and got nearly 60 upvotes. I don't think they care about Talon. He is in a fine spot right now anyways, but I would really love if they would do it. They always talk about consistency and refuse to keep things consistent.

Migrañaboy2 votes

As far as I know QoL aren-t damage related but about aesthetics, visual indicators.

If anything that's Quality of Death buff.

Lugg1 votes

Seems reasonable.

AndroidYumi1 votes

I don't even really play Talon often but it would make sense if he had this.

ZionSeeker1 votes

As a Talon main I approve of this.

NaneekOG1 votes

Yeah. Ekko can do it not sure why talon can't.

1000angrybees1 votes

It would be biased of me if I didnt agree to this. The amount of kills Ive gotten with Ahri's return orb is pretty sweet.

Xinotine1 votes

I got a pretty nice shut down with Ahri orb return today, so I can just agree.

Transgressor1 votes

That's not a "QOL buff".

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