Anyone else excited for Gangplank's new E?

Shroom Junkie··52 votes·17,088 views

Zone control o.o Me likes

... Except ranged champs

fuck you Gnar

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Remlap122334 votes

CHOO CHOO! ALL ABOARD THE GANGPLANK HYPE TRAIN! NO BRAKES, THE ORANGES REMOVED THEM!

idoki33 votes

Sion : "Use the brakes Johnson, we are going to to crash!" "Right away sir!" ... "Sir! The brakes are gone but we found these instead." http://pngimg.com/upload/orange_PNG810.png Sion: "Mother of god" Gangplank: Ya-ha-har!

shadecrapper1 votes

nice dude

idoki2 votes

thanks bro

MrBuffington14 votes

I just figured out how they're supposed to help him splitpush; you just leave a string of them along your escape route and as people chase you, you detonate them and give yourself the passive speed boost. It's really cool and clever, gives him a new skill ceiling; especially since his W now heals based on missing HP, you have more reason to put points in E. I like it a lot

RiotRiot Scruffy36 votes

The passive works on towers too. GP burns cities to the ground.

Pretty Dhizi14 votes

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The passive works on towers too. GP burns cities to the ground.

Could you clarify one thing? Is there a amount-limit, or time-limit to how many/how long barrels last? How many can you place? Will it be unlimited since it's destructible by enemies? How long will it stay on the field?

RiotRiot Scruffy10 votes

Barrels last for a really long time (like a minute or something) and there's no limit to how many you can place. It's mostly gated by a charge system (like corki R).

Nielarken1 votes

Do they grant vision like teemos shrooms?

MrBuffington1 votes

I think so; was messing around with them on PBE, there's a tiny bit of vision around the barrels like Teemo shrooms, but they don't detonate if someone steps on them and I'm not sure if they actually reveal anyone unless they walk directly on top of it

junglerboy161 votes

—at which point they're already right clicking it for a free 10 gold you left sitting around.

GP Barrels aren't for wards except possibly in a split push scenario, because it is too easy to dismantle them to just scatter them around the map (I mean, even reek's tunnels take more effort to remove and you only have to stand on them for a couple seconds).

Penta Penguin1 votes

on Barrel, what does "the attack's damage" mean exactly? Just GP's current AD, or... does it factor in all damage being done by your attack/Parrley? Does it count Parrley bonus, Sheen, Statikkm etc.? What if it's a critical?

DrCyanide8 votes

I'm currious on the number of barrels that can be out and if they can be all chained together.

I've got this mental image of Wile E. Coyote Gangplank with lots of kegs in a bush, waiting over the wall with one keg for Roadrunner enemies to wander in. I am also imagining bombing the river bush Top Lane from the Blue Side Tower.

MrBuffington1 votes

I drew a special G (you can get more, I was just messing around a bit so they started to disappear)

https://imgur.com/qGo9ZQt

Meep Man1 votes

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The passive works on towers too. GP burns cities to the ground.

Really? Thats amazing actually considering the passive DOES scale with AD.

Xonra3 votes

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Really? Thats amazing actually considering the passive DOES scale with AD.

Where are you seeing that it scales with AD? Why would true damage scale with AD on a passive? That seems a bit awkward.

Meep Man3 votes

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Where are you seeing that it scales with AD? Why would true damage scale with AD on a passive? That seems a bit awkward.

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Xonra2 votes

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Well after finally seeing some scaling, I 100% take back all that I have said.

Scaling on his passive, scaling and the added missing health on oranges...alright I concede, after seeing the scaling (not the specific numbers, just the fact that there IS scaling there unlike what I expected), this is an improvement.

Remlap12231 votes

I'm curious as to how many Silver Serpents it'll take to upgrade his ultimate just once.

I went on lolwiki and according to the PBE the 100% AP ratio is staying. I'm perfectly ok with that due to the 100% missing health scaling is added after a nerf to the base values.

His E is worded kinda weirdly. From what I can tell it does 100% AD, bonus damage to champions, and ignores 60% armor and applies a slow?

His ultimate is just a flat out buff. Greater duration, greater damage, greater DPS. It's everything I coulda asked for. Although they may want to consider buffing fire at will, because right now Death's Daughter blows it out of the water (pun fully intended.)

InsanitysTheName1 votes

Hey, The reason it says (the attack) is because he can parrley a barrel to explode it with that damage. (Yes crits apply), (no shiv doesn't), (yes that means you can plunder a whole minion wave with 1 barrel and 1 parrley). :)

Remlap12232 votes

That makes me moister than an oyster.

junglerboy161 votes

500 per upgrade, every time (getting multiple upgrades doesn't increase the cost of the other upgrades). If you can get yourself 1500 extra gold off of your Q, you can get all three upgrades. You need to kill between 375 and 188 minions with Q (probably about 230-240 average) to get enough silver serpents for all three upgrades, but as little as between 125 and 63 for just one.

It'll be a rare occasion to get all three, but getting 1 upgrade by mid game and another before late game would be plausible if you play GP decently.

Silents4295 votes

Is it possible to allow you to Q the barrels?

I feel like this is something you should be able to do.

RiotRiot Scruffy26 votes

Oh you can DEFINITELY Q the powder keg. This is basically the point. If the barrel kills multiple minions when you Q, you get parrrley gold for all of them. BANK

terkmc1 votes

Does his Q apply his passive since one of its most unique point is that it is coded as a melee attack

RiotRiot Scruffy10 votes

Q does not apply the passive (it's sword attacks only) but it still applies other melee effects like tiamat or melee iceborn gauntlet proc.

SquishyArchon2 votes

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Q does not apply the passive (it's sword attacks only) but it still applies other melee effects like tiamat or melee iceborn gauntlet proc.

TRINITY FORCE IS DISAPPOINT

Dies to Wolves5 votes

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it's sword attacks only

but what if I have 100% crit? (HIS CRIT ANIMATION IS STILL WITH HIS GUN, RIGHT???????????????????????????)

TotalJerk1 votes

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it still applies other melee effects like tiamat or melee iceborn gauntlet proc.

Not to be pendantic (well, maybe a little bit), but why?

kDrakari1 votes

Gangplank is a melee champion, so his on-hit effects are melee on-hit effects. It's just that some of them are ranged.

TotalJerk1 votes

That makes about as much sense to me as Kayle proccing Tiamat.

LordGeovanni1 votes

kayle can proc tiamat but only when useing meele attacks parley does extra damage but does meele on hit effects

TotalJerk1 votes

Well, duh. I'm talking about how E disables it.

LordGeovanni1 votes

its totally the same 1 basic attack agmenting spell that gives range is the same as a spell that fires and does effects that a basic attack would do on a meele champion

LordGeovanni1 votes

but doesnt Gangplank crit with his gun does that mean that crits wount apply passive and if crits can apply why cant q.

just gonna milk this logic for all i can

Diananmen Square1 votes

Bankplank 2.0 confirmed

"What's a statikk shiv? item 3093 > item 3087"

PhoenixSlayer131 votes

BANKPLANK EVEN HARRRRRDEEEERRRRR

Wheatloaf6 votes

One For All Gangplank, anyone?

Kalarepa3 votes

If that barrel doesn't have AP ratio, I will be very sad.

ChaosThief2 votes

I SHALL CHECK THAT.

I HAVE PBE. I NEED TO CHECK THAT.

OyddAWqJ5r1 votes

It doesn't. It deals the same damage as whatever attack you used to destroy it + a pretty high base damage. No ratios on it at all besides the fact that it deals whatever you used to kill it as its damage + the bonus.

So I'm not sure yet but I'm pretty sure you can parrrley crit a barrel to deal massive amounts of dumb damage in an AoE.

Oh and it ignores 60% of affected target's armor. Ouch.

ChaosThief1 votes

So what if you killed it with a lich bane Q?!

...kidding. does total AD + some damage on champions. GP is disabled on PBE unfortunately.

OyddAWqJ5r1 votes

Eh, idk if it's total AD. It specifically says "dealing the attack's damage". It doesn't have a ratio or anything. It literally says the damage of the last attack. So I assume that includes parrrley crits. Which means critplank just got quite the buff.

Also I'd assume by "the attack's damage" that also includes sheen, tri, ice, lich and runeglaive procs. Also statikk shiv.

I think it just takes it all and converts it to physical damage that ignores 60% armor

Messaiga2 votes

After playing it, I can confirm how it works. Basically, it deals exactly the damage your AA would have done. This means that if your attack were to be a crit, you get a crit in the aoe of your barrel/barrels. This also means that you can apply Spellblade to all people damaged by the barrel. Not sure how it interacts with Runeglaive or Lichbane yet.

Knatt5 votes

They'd probably be good anti-dive tools as well.

I just wanna know how fast you can put them up. Can you quickly put one behind your opponent, one next to yourself, and detonate it? Also I think its a bit of a shame that ally's can't activate it.

Jacknife1 votes

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They'd probably be good anti-dive tools as well.

I just wanna know how fast you can put them up. Can you quickly put one behind your opponent, one next to yourself, and detonate it? Also I think its a bit of a shame that ally's can't activate it.

I believe the detonation time scales with level, so at max rank it sets itself as fast as the preview video for the ability. Seeing as how your Parrrley scales with full AD, I see no reason not to level the barrels first :)

ChaosThief5 votes

I would love to just wait in a bush with like 10 barrels, a guy walks in and I yell "MONKEYS IN A BARREL!" as I blow them all up.

...I'm a bit too excited.

Jesus Died 4 You3 votes

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I would love to just wait in a bush with like 10 barrels, a guy walks in and I yell "MONKEYS IN A BARREL!" as I blow them all up.

...I'm a bit too excited.

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