Toplane lanebullies

Warmas·11/8/2019, 11:26:55 AM·12 votes·7,838 views

It has been quiet a while that Quinn Kennen Gnar have been terrorizing toplane and I don't think that I am alone with hashinshin on this. I feel like they are not getting adressed beause they are low winrate(which isn't even the case with quinn). For the counterplay you need a team which you usually won't have in soloque which is THE GAME practically, and even then are unstopable, this year's worlds is the greatest example of that. The counterplay from the toplaners side is sitting under turret waiting for lvl6, lvl11, not very healthy is it? Even though they are consantly low pickrate even when they are stupid broken because almost nobody wants to play them because toplaners are usually bruiser players (yes I sound like hashinshin but he is right about a lot of things). Now I ask isn't it a huge problem, shouldn't they be a priority to be changed. I wonder if ADCs liked Urgot Mordekaiser Karthus and like Garen Heimerdinger Syndra bot, I wonder if midlaners liked Aatrox Lulu and likeMalphite (who just got adressed) mid, I wonder if junglers liked only-tank jungler meta. Neither do toplaners like those 3 monstrosities (and some more Teemo ).

It is hard to fix these champions because their whole kit involves around bullying the lane with 0 consequences (which I don't know how was even a good idea) they all should be reworked honestly they cause only problems, but maybe nerf their 0 consequence aspect. Kennen with a 10 second cd on the disengage really? Quinn 12 seconds cd on the slow-damage-knockback-diesengage really? Gnar's E is 22 seconds cd but he also has movspeed from W and slow from Q, but don't worry the the time they get to you you turn into a tank, really? Their disengage ability is also an engage ability, while bruiser only-engage abilities like Darius E has 24 sec cd, Mordekaiser E has 24 sec cd, Renekton E (which is a diesengage as well true) has 18 sec cd, Aatrox W has 26 sec cd to name a few.

59 Comments

Minimac200011/8/2019, 7:05:50 PM8 votes

Yeah, you forgot the worst offenders being Vladimir Gangplank and Kayle who get to scale for free while being incredibly obnoxious lane bullies, like at least gnar is fightable (in his "stronger" non ranged form lmao, that ought to tell you something)

Handy Sandy 11/8/2019, 1:11:27 PM4 votes

toplane meta atm is all about Kayle Fiora. quinn and kennen aren't as strong as they used to be because of the meta shift, and gnar hasnt done anything to anyone since 2018.

The thigh guy11/8/2019, 8:13:36 PM4 votes

So long story short.

“Only melee champions should be able to be bullies, it’s not like melee champions already have EVERY other advantage over range besides just being ranged.”

Pendergast89111/8/2019, 4:24:01 PM3 votes

I do not believe buffing Darius Mordekaiser Renekton and any other melee champions engage ability is what fixes it, because those same champions will dominate almost every melee champ if that happens.

Most of complained about champs are ranged, poke champs that can kill you with a full combo when you're low enough. So the answer to that would be to have better early game melee vs ranged sustain.

ReportsR4Losers11/8/2019, 12:07:31 PM3 votes

Kennen weak and pathetic champion. Not sure how you can put him in your list. Must be a troll post.

TheBigBoyMcCoy11/8/2019, 4:33:46 PM3 votes

Quinn main here.

Quinn has not been adressed in any sort of update for over a year now. Other than her cosmetic change earlier this year (update her running animation) and a very minor QOL update (she ults on return to fountain now) Quinn has been unchanged since mid s8. The cosmetic update I spoke of is the only time Quinn has even showed up in patch notes this season.

LightswornLance11/8/2019, 4:56:19 PM3 votes

I rather not get laned bully by a fucking squirrel, at least it would make sense that Darius is a lane bully.

PhearBunny11/8/2019, 11:49:03 AM2 votes

As a Nocturne top OTP, the only top laners that can bully me are... Urgot, Mordekaiser, and the occasional Fiora if she gets a significant enough lead on me.

In theory, Olaf would stomp me. But i havent seen an Olaf top once this entire season lol

Ahri Baka11/8/2019, 1:00:38 PM2 votes

They can bully you in early levels only lmao , I've seen Darius top shitting on Lucian and Quinn in ranked yesterday.

Darkdemon65311/8/2019, 11:29:55 AM2 votes

It's being looked at for season 10.

BrokenRayquaza11/8/2019, 7:17:21 PM2 votes

The days of Lulu mid made me want to die