Kai'sa questions

Saezio·Feb 10, 2019·1 votes·863 views

Why don't runes bonuses count towards kai'sa's evolutions but att speed per lvl and ad per lvl does? WTF is this? Let me play full ap kai'sa and evolve W with a luden when I have 120 AP pls.

6 Comments

TheRealistKirbyFeb 10, 20191 votes

Probably just because the per level stats can be balanced specifically around kaisa without impacting anyone else, and the runes can't. Otherwise you could do things like evolving Kai's w with a luden.

SaezioFeb 10, 20191 votes

So, what you are saying is that the problem is AP kai'sas running rampant. Well tbh the real cancerous evolutions are Q and E. W has 5 million ways to coutnerplay it

TheRealistKirbyFeb 10, 20191 votes

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So, what you are saying is that the problem is AP kai'sas running rampant. Well tbh the real cancerous evolutions are Q and E. W has 5 million ways to coutnerplay it

Didn't say it's running rampant, lol, just said they don't want to put themselves in a position where they might have to balance runes around a specific champ just so you can hit people harder with w with a very specific build path. She doesn't need it, she's performing fine where she's at, and they have other more pressing things to work on.

SaezioFeb 10, 20191 votes

Or, they could change the numbers on the evolutions if they wanted. I am just saying that it is very inconsistent. And it is not even said in the skill that ONLY item bonuses count for her W whereas for Q and E (her main 2 evolutions when played as adc) it's not the case. They could make it require 150 AP and it would create more room to buff ap kaisa while not affecting ad kaisa (the much stronger of the 2)

TheRealistKirbyFeb 10, 20191 votes

But it would impact a kaisa building both AP and AD, which is what they wanted from her in the first place... And if they change it to 150 ap and let runes impact it, it's effectively the same, there would be no reason to do it.

SaezioFeb 10, 20191 votes

Well, no it is not the same, because it is adaptive, so it would only affect AP kai'sa. also, doesn't att speed from runes contribute to her E evolve? :S Another thing is that atm kaisa with nashor+rageblade and all other items AD can evolve all 3 of her spells. So even if for some reason she had more AP than AD to convert rune to AP it would still not be enough to evolve (considering this said buildpath)

So I am asking, is this a limitation because riot thought AP kai'sa is so oppressive ? Is it simply a bug? Did riot make an official statement on it? I am trying to understand the decision behind this inconsistency