Aatrox Discussion! (Constructive Please!)

Poro Lord··2 votes·2,290 views

I know, I know, people are mad, and think it sucks.

BUT, I think it is kinda cool, and wanna make it work in my silver Elo.

Please post on 3 topics.

1: Runes 2: Items 3: Play-style (how you trade, how you farm, any little tips or tricks)

P.S. I imagine his kit wont change much, so anyone who learns the kit now, might be in freelo town when they buff the shit out of him. I played Orn when he was considered terrible, then after buffs, it was too easy man! :D

5 Comments

Galiö2 votes

He is kinda garbage in lane right now but has ok clear. His W is awkward to use and seems better in ganks than as a laner.

Runes: aftershock (seems to be better as q tank and clears in jungle are already good) Items: CDR wherever u find it Playstyle: you can pretty much do w.e in silver and win but best lane for him is jungle (as I stated before)

Jackom11 votes

Premise: the rework has just been released, so most of my consideration are gut feelings, and a bit of what I could grasp from a couple games.

  1. Runes For now I'm kinda undecided between Conqueror and Grasp:
  • Conqueror converts a good amount of damage into true damage, which probably makes Aatrox scary vs tanks. Otherwise, Aatrox just doesn't feel like has a lot of tank-killing potential, besides black cleaver of course. The caveat, if I'm reading it right, is that Conqueror actually lowers Aatrox's sustain, since it converts (NOT adds) damage, so he'll actually end up dealing less physical damage, which is supposedly the only source of damage that heals him.

  • Grasp instead boosts his healing, which by itself isn't that insane actually. He's not like Illaoi or Darius, who heal based on their missing HP, regardless of the damage they do. WIth Aatrox you actually need to deal as much damage as you can in order to sustain. And since you'll still be landing some AAs inbetween casts, one or two %HP heals are quite welcome. It also adds 5 HP each time it's procced, but you never take Graps for this, on any champion.

Right now I don't see other interesting keystones for Aatrox, for these reasons:

  • Press the attack - Lethal Tempo: Aatrox doesn't benefit from pure AA builds anymore.
  • Fleet Footwork: maybe, but it scales with bonus AD, which from what I see you won't be getting lots of. He's a juggernaut now, and shouldn't work well with squishier builds. So you definitely won't get as much heal from FF as you'll get from Grasp.
  • All 4 domination keystones: They are made for upfront burst damage, which shouldn't interest Aatrox players. Predator might be a niche, if jungling, for faster ganks, but I'd say that it will quickly lose usefulness by mid-late game.
  • Aery - Arcane Comet: they scale with bonus AD, and not a lot of it anyway. So I'm not sure that you'll be boosting your damage by a lot with them, especially not with Aery.
  • Phase rush: you can try, but keep in mind that Aatrox can't move when casting Q, you can only reposition with E. But in between casts a MS boost might find some use. Still not the best keystone for him.
  • Aftershock: not bad, given you have some CC, but it has a long CD. It will help you if you want to go full tank and intiate, something that Aatrox may be able to do. But if you want to go for dps, just any other keystone is better.
  • Gurdian: why? you're not a guardian
  • Inspiration Keystones: you can probably make something out of all of them, though their use cases aren't that straightforward. Inspiration could be ok, since you can add an AA inbetween ability casts.

For the lesser runes I don't want to be too specific, I'll just say that all 4 trees have something interesting for Aatrox IMO, so it all boils down to what keystone you want to take.

2: Items

Black Cleaver into Steraks. I don't really see other choices. He NEEDS CD reduction, does only physical damage and is melee with no gap closer, and needs health and overall survivability. Death's dance is probably a good choice, but his abilities are AoE, so he will only heal for 33% of the damage he deals. It can still be a lot in crowded situations, but otherwise you're probably safer going tanky.

So BC + Steraks + Tank items (possibly a spirit visage). Maybe put a Titanic/Ravenous Hydra or a Death's dance if you're ahead and feel like you can survive. Depends on how aggressive you want to go.

3: Playstyle

Sorry but I think it's too soon for now to say. One thing though: enemy minions focus you only if you hit the enemy with basic attacks and single target abilities, so as long as you attack the opponent with just your spells, which are all AoE, you should not be afraid of retaliation. Also, you heal from all damage you deal, not just dmg you deal to champions, which means that you'll probably want to go for a trade while inside a minion wave (something that few champions actually want to do early game). I think this last part is something you should capitalise on during the early, especially on laners like Quinn or Teemo, or Irelia who work mostly with AAs. Lastly, your ult let's you tower dive with impunity, putting to shame even Tryndamere.

Poro Lord1 votes

Yeah he can really tower dive after 6 huh!

I'm a bit chicken.

Compared to my friends, I don't tower dive as often, but maybe this guy will change that.

xD

DTPandemonium1 votes

Go grasp not conqueror. Conq is extra bad on him because by the time you get to auto attack to activate it against an enemy you already used 2 of your Qs and on top of that if you had your passive ready before an auto attack your passive doesn't get the benefit from it. Aftershock is bad in lane because of high cooldown but in silver they probably won't even know to not fight when you have aftershock going.

His passive is the only way you can actually deal decent damage without hitting every single Q but after you run out of cooldowns you don't do anything and enjoy loss unless you kept W so you have a semblance of hope on disengaging if your opponent doesn't realise that they have been W'd in 1 second. Otherwise they can just run behind you and break the tether and since you have no damage threat against them with no abilities you do absolute jack shit xD.

You actually don't need more than 30% cdr but it's ok if you get more randomly from an item you get. You have to go triforce or cleaver into steraks into either death's dance or GA and tank. There is no other option for your 3rd item other than death's dance or GA because there is nothing that gives AD and HP other than titty hydra which is not really a great item if you don't have attack speed in your kit. You can get frozen mallet just for the stats I guess lol.

Your ult is only really good to stop enemy from diving you solo and it also gives ok AD when you get all your damage items. You can also use it to get a movespeed burst for a passive auto attack after you do your combo and they don't get knocked up or something but the planets need to align for you to have passive up after 3rd Q.

Poro Lord1 votes

What about Frozen Mallet?

Auto them, then point blank chain?

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