I don't understand how Nasus is not toxic or broken

I NEED HEALlNG·Oct 26, 2017·2 votes·431 views

He's unfun to play against. he now slows, q's more than ever, his build allows more attack speed, heals, and tanks. split pushes these paper thin towers, so they don't help you. It's like he's what pantheon wishes he was. i feel he's very toxic, but why isn't he. and if your reason is "because u counter pick x champ with x champ" then that's not a good reason at all. I understand that he can be bad in teamfights and organized play, big emphasis on CAN, but overall with the shitty towers, he just feels even more toxic than pantheon to lane against.

10 Comments

AenaeusOct 26, 20174 votes

You just don't know basic lane mechanics and how to deny cs. Bring your whining somewhere else.

I NEED HEALlNGOct 26, 20173 votes

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You just don't know basic lane mechanics and how to deny cs. Bring your whining somewhere else.

so i ask a question and ask for feedback and it's "whining"?

wow. thanks you dlckhead. go troll some where else i'm gold btw

AenaeusOct 26, 20171 votes

"i'm gold btw" That's saying a lot.

I NEED HEALlNGOct 27, 20171 votes

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"i'm gold btw" That's saying a lot.

pxYj06isjrOct 26, 20173 votes

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I NEED HEALlNGOct 26, 20172 votes

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Get out of gold before bitching about balance.

"i feel he's very toxic, but why isn't he" thank you for the feed back, asshole

Ravenous HowlsOct 26, 20171 votes

I will actually address your questions as best as I can b/c the way you phrased everything seems more opinion than fact.

Nasus's slow is single target, so is SS and pretty much his ult. His kit is built to duel. If you are fighting Nasus 1v1 then eventually you will lose unless you have the sustain, true damage or pen to kill him. Fiora, Darius and most ADC's can accomplish that if they do not lose lane and can scale either off Nasus or off another lane.

Nasus's build really doesn't incorporate any natural attack speed items. He gets bits and pieces of things like that from Trinity but nothing else.

His healing is purely dependent on how many stacks he has and if he can fight you inside spirit fire. If he lacks stacks then he barely heals, if you don't fight him inside spirit fire then he can't penetrate higher armor to heal. His heal can also be severely crippled by cheap items like Executioner 800g or Bramble Vest 900g. Ignite or Morello's also kill his healing and that is huge part of his defensive capabilities. Without his healing he falls very quickly to sustained damage.

The point about towers is irrelevant. Most ADC's or AD Melee carries can shred towers much faster than Nasus can. Tryn, Yi, most ADC's for example shred towers insanely fast. This is more an issue with tower balance then anything else.

Your goal should be to pick a champion who is better at lock down and team fight. Don't bother trying to win the lane you are in as much as the game.

I NEED HEALlNGOct 26, 20171 votes

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I will actually address your questions as best as I can b/c the way you phrased everything seems more opinion than fact.

Nasus's slow is single target, so is SS and pretty much his ult. His kit is built to duel. If you are fighting Nasus 1v1 then eventually you will lose unless you have the sustain, true damage or pen to kill him. Fiora, Darius and most ADC's can accomplish that if they do not lose lane and can scale either off Nasus or off another lane.

Nasus's build really doesn't incorporate any natural attack speed items. He gets bits and pieces of things like that from Trinity but nothing else.

His healing is purely dependent on how many stacks he has and if he can fight you inside spirit fire. If he lacks stacks then he barely heals, if you don't fight him inside spirit fire then he can't penetrate higher armor to heal. His heal can also be severely crippled by cheap items like Executioner 800g or Bramble Vest 900g. Ignite or Morello's also kill his healing and that is huge part of his defensive capabilities. Without his healing he falls very quickly to sustained damage.

The point about towers is irrelevant. Most ADC's or AD Melee carries can shred towers much faster than Nasus can. Tryn, Yi, most ADC's for example shred towers insanely fast. This is more an issue with tower balance then anything else.

Your goal should be to pick a champion who is better at lock down and team fight. Don't bother trying to win the lane you are in as much as the game.

of course it's an opinion? why in the world would it be a fact? i agree with most of this, except the picking a champion part. Maybe you meant in general, but i don't think a champion should really force an entire team to pick something to counter him. Not every time i feel like playing X champ in order to just counter nasus you know or just for CC yano? It becomes boring.

Ravenous HowlsOct 27, 20171 votes

You can play any champ you want but just realize going in that your job is to win the game and not the lane. however some champions can very easily bully Nasus and freeze the lane keeping him from getting EXP and stacks. Xin, Renekton, Riven, Tryn, Darius. But you have to only last hit and not push and keep the wave just outside of your tower and force him to come to you. That's how you beat a Nasus.

I NEED HEALlNGOct 27, 20171 votes

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You can play any champ you want but just realize going in that your job is to win the game and not the lane. however some champions can very easily bully Nasus and freeze the lane keeping him from getting EXP and stacks. Xin, Renekton, Riven, Tryn, Darius. But you have to only last hit and not push and keep the wave just outside of your tower and force him to come to you. That's how you beat a Nasus.

thank you