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Yasuo and Lee Sin...

Glîtchy·May 17, 2017·2 votes·1,071 views

Look, as most can agree, Yasuo and Lee Sin are both toxic as hell (both mains and in kit)

The big problem is, people act as if Yasuo and Lee Sin outplayed you, when in reality all they did was wind wall/mark, dash, then ult you, c'mon, guys just admit that these two are

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If anything Yasuo's passive is overloaded, doubled crit rate gain, and a shield you gain just by walking around that'll completely nullify the next form of damage he takes, so you end up praying you time it right when both you and him are low,

Lee Sin, ward jumping, marks you for vision/dashing to you, bursts then kicks you into being the odd one out if he hasn't killed you yet, plus he's lacking NOWHERE, great damage, great mobility, great defense, and no one say CC counters his ass, that applies to literally EVERY champ, and no I did not just lose to either of these guys, I'm just sick of people acting like the Lee and Yas mains are such pros.

27 Comments

UnboundHadesMay 17, 20174 votes

I just find it funny how 80% of the people complaining about yas have the ahri icon

PhantomGGMay 17, 20171 votes

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I just find it funny how 80% of the people complaining about yas have the ahri icon

https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=LYSETH

humorously enough they are actually a strict veigar otp lol

PhantomGGMay 17, 20172 votes

salt post be salty as fuck

checks op.gg

border line bronze (silver 4)

and plays literally nothing but Veigar. who has the definition of "outplay" #sarcasm built into his toolkit.

the hypocrisy in this post is just wow.

Spicy RiceMay 17, 20171 votes

I must have missed the patch where yasuo shield now literally negates the next source of damage he takes

Ruin LanceMay 17, 20171 votes

it's kind of weird how the only people who complain about yasuo still are gold and below or a support main weird!

Yaśuo MainMay 17, 20171 votes

Ok Veigar main, teach me about how Yasuo has "less counterplay" than Veigar. I'm sick of this shit.

GlîtchyMay 17, 20171 votes

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Ok Veigar main, teach me about how Yasuo has "less counterplay" than Veigar. I'm sick of this shit.

I only play Veigar a lot right now because Lux is SO popular as well as Yas and I can completely shut them down with Veigar, and Yes Veigar DOES have counterplay, Syndra and Vel'Koz both SERIOUSLY outrange him along with Fizz dodging EVERYTHING

Yaśuo MainMay 17, 20171 votes

Artillery Mages outranging other mages? Wow, that's new. And as far as I know, Yasuo doesn't outrange him, out damage him, out CC him and the only thing he excels at more than Veigar is mobility. Fucking show me counterplay rite now, scrub. Show me Veigar with a 49% win rate mid like Yasuo. I'm waiting.

GlîtchyMay 17, 20171 votes

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Artillery Mages outranging other mages? Wow, that's new. And as far as I know, Yasuo doesn't outrange him, out damage him, out CC him and the only thing he excels at more than Veigar is mobility. Fucking show me counterplay rite now, scrub. Show me Veigar with a 49% win rate mid like Yasuo. I'm waiting.

Veigar win rate this season.... 49%

PhantomGGMay 17, 20171 votes

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I only play Veigar a lot right now because Lux is SO popular as well as Yas and I can completely shut them down with Veigar, and Yes Veigar DOES have counterplay, Syndra and Vel'Koz both SERIOUSLY outrange him along with Fizz dodging EVERYTHING

Lies, you only play Veigar for you are incapable of playing anything else, I looked at your OP.GG your Kda and win rate is literally horrific on other champions. Hell your KDA on your main is literally a 2.7, now that's just bloody sad. You are bad at this game, you are a one trick pony and not even a good one, and your opinions and beliefs on this game are still bronze as fuck. Get your ego out of your ass and actually study it. I even looked at your season 6 stats and u were a veigar OTP back then to. you have been one trick ponying the same champion for two whole seasons now, and can't even play him at a gold quality yet. You barely passed for silver.

GlîtchyMay 17, 20171 votes

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Lies, you only play Veigar for you are incapable of playing anything else, I looked at your OP.GG your Kda and win rate is literally horrific on other champions. Hell your KDA on your main is literally a 2.7, now that's just bloody sad. You are bad at this game, you are a one trick pony and not even a good one, and your opinions and beliefs on this game are still bronze as fuck. Get your ego out of your ass and actually study it. I even looked at your season 6 stats and u were a veigar OTP back then to. you have been one trick ponying the same champion for two whole seasons now, and can't even play him at a gold quality yet. You barely passed for silver.

No, last season I was all over the place X_X

I was told that going one trick with a champ is the best way to climb out of bronze, I'm playing normals now to get better with other champs, so no need to be an asshole and call me bad, seriously.

Yaśuo MainMay 17, 20171 votes

Being a one trick is actually bad lol, if they ban your one trick champion then you lose.

GlîtchyMay 17, 20171 votes

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Being a one trick is actually bad lol, if they ban your one trick champion then you lose.

I've been playing Twitch, Nautilus, Kled and Ahri more now to avoid being cancelled out, take a look in my history, I played 2 Twitch games in a row so far

Yaśuo MainMay 17, 20171 votes

You've been playing them more, yeah. But are you as "skilled" with them "as veigar"?

GlîtchyMay 17, 20171 votes

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You've been playing them more, yeah. But are you as "skilled" with them "as veigar"?

I never said Veigar required skill, besides I went 28/10/13 as Twitch earlier

Yaśuo MainMay 17, 20171 votes

with twitch

in silver

You gotta understand that Twitch is meta slave champion and obviously strong

GlîtchyMay 17, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Yaśuo Main,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RyA5JVta,comment-id=000500000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-17T22:42:32.875+0000)

with twitch

in silver

You gotta understand that Twitch is meta slave champion and obviously strong

Well it's not like he's no skill, he's really weak early

PhantomGGMay 17, 20171 votes

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No, last season I was all over the place X_X

I was told that going one trick with a champ is the best way to climb out of bronze, I'm playing normals now to get better with other champs, so no need to be an asshole and call me bad, seriously.

was i abit harsh, yes, but sometimes it's needed. You are insulting champions who take ages to learn, you are given them very illogical arguments, and honestly your entire post is salt. And then to top it off you are being a hypocrite when you are playing a champion as basic as veigar. So your topic is both illogical, poorly supported and hypocritical.

HallbusterMay 17, 20171 votes

I don't really care what spot Yasuo is in right now. My OTP Vladimir counters his entire kit. While nerfing him might make my life easier when I see him in middle lane, he might end up being less popular and thus less picked.

Sir FuzziMay 17, 20171 votes

Nekopara, the weeaboo Ahri icon, admitting you're bronze by trying to tout fact...

I don't know what it is I hate most about you, but I'm pretty sure 'literally everything' covers it.

Dodge Lee's Q. Don't pick slow, unthreatening range (or melee) into Yasuo.

And for Christ's sake. Next time you come onto Boards spouting 'facts,' maybe you should actually use facts instead of just accusing everyone around you of being wrong, Donald Trump.

If Lee and Yasuo really were guaranteed wins everyone would play them. They're flexible picks and stomp immobile, squishy champions that do lots of damage (see: Lux, Veigar).

GlîtchyMay 17, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sir Fuzzi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RyA5JVta,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2017-05-17T22:53:43.887+0000)

Nekopara, the weeaboo Ahri icon, admitting you're bronze by trying to tout fact...

I don't know what it is I hate most about you, but I'm pretty sure 'literally everything' covers it.

Dodge Lee's Q. Don't pick slow, unthreatening range (or melee) into Yasuo.

And for Christ's sake. Next time you come onto Boards spouting 'facts,' maybe you should actually use facts instead of just accusing everyone around you of being wrong, Donald Trump.

If Lee and Yasuo really were guaranteed wins everyone would play them. They're flexible picks and stomp immobile, squishy champions that do lots of damage (see: Lux, Veigar).

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Sir FuzziMay 17, 20171 votes

You still have to learn to dodge straight lines.

Someday, a straight line will no longer be OP to you. I pray God's speed for that day.

GlîtchyMay 17, 20171 votes

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You still have to learn to dodge straight lines.

Someday, a straight line will no longer be OP to you. I pray God's speed for that day.

It's not imo, the problem is, Lee Sin can just kill you then get out faster than Kanye West got out of Kim Kardashian's life.

Sir FuzziMay 17, 20171 votes

There is no force of man, nor of nature, that Kanye West does not influence.

He can't kill you that quick if you dodge the goddamn orb, Shinji. His Q is pretty much all of his threat. Once it's down, he lacks his poke, his engage, and the damage it brings (coughcoughhisexecutemechaniccough).

The only thing I really sustain with Lee is he doesn't need to jump to wards. He might also serve to have Flurry build one stack per cast rather than two (but a max of two). It forces him to 'combo' with more regularity and makes him a little less fluid in spending energy which is probably insanely helpful for his lane opponents.

Yasuo is more like a feast or famine pick-or-be-picked-off. You can't walk a bad matchup into Yasuo. You do, and you're gonna have a bad time. That said, anytime someone gives an account of walking a good matchup into his lane, they just talk about how easy it is. Again, Darius is probably a good pick. You wanna hate someone cuz you ain't someone, hate him.

Good ol' Dar-dar.

Anyway, the point is, there are ways of dealing with these champions. They're powerful, yes, but ignoring the fact that they can be beaten makes the problem worse because more players will take to the champions for the easy wins.

GlîtchyMay 17, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sir Fuzzi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RyA5JVta,comment-id=00070000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-17T23:29:52.269+0000)

There is no force of man, nor of nature, that Kanye West does not influence.

He can't kill you that quick if you dodge the goddamn orb, Shinji. His Q is pretty much all of his threat. Once it's down, he lacks his poke, his engage, and the damage it brings (coughcoughhisexecutemechaniccough).

The only thing I really sustain with Lee is he doesn't need to jump to wards. He might also serve to have Flurry build one stack per cast rather than two (but a max of two). It forces him to 'combo' with more regularity and makes him a little less fluid in spending energy which is probably insanely helpful for his lane opponents.

Yasuo is more like a feast or famine pick-or-be-picked-off. You can't walk a bad matchup into Yasuo. You do, and you're gonna have a bad time. That said, anytime someone gives an account of walking a good matchup into his lane, they just talk about how easy it is. Again, Darius is probably a good pick. You wanna hate someone cuz you ain't someone, hate him.

Good ol' Dar-dar.

Anyway, the point is, there are ways of dealing with these champions. They're powerful, yes, but ignoring the fact that they can be beaten makes the problem worse because more players will take to the champions for the easy wins.

I don't own Darius (had the chance but re-rolled him), because he's a bullshit champ with his ult reset.

Sir FuzziMay 17, 20171 votes

He has to work for it and is ridiculously stopped up by slows. A Rylai will do significant damage.

His ult is meant to be a killer and he's meant to be a response to champions like Yasuo who have very flexible kits, where the thing with Darius is fuck you, he's Darius and if you're in melee range it's too late, you're gonna get it now.

If you want to pick bad matchups, that's on you. It's also on you, then, to turn it to your advantage.

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