Why are players so Toxic on Riven?

Mira Arya Enthe··2 votes·1,333 views

And by on, I mean towards her. I've noticed something. Some Rivens are Toxic, a little more than other champions I see(possible bias). However playing Riven, everyone is toxic to you. People wonder why Rivens are Toxic but literally every game I play her, whether carrying or failing or cutting even. People call out every play you do, watch your lane more than their own. Find any excuse to be pissy and rude towards you. Call out every stat you have on the board from CS(Even if you are against a counter) to KDA(Even if it is because you have been playing safe as to not feed Darius). Junglers act spiteful if late game you take a camp or buff like any other laner would late game. And if you do a lot in a team fight but manage to die anyway as the team fight is won? Everyone pings "?" on you. Like... Maybe before people talk about a certain champion being 'toxic' they should consider how they are treating that person. Because I caught myself nearly doing the same to Yasuo players who had literally said nothing wrong and done nothing toxic.

It was a funny joke, but at this point it is damn near 'discrimination' against anybody who thinks maybe those champions look cool, or enjoys their kit design. And that is real toxicity, not your Riven failing an engage because they aren't BoxBox.

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Korillo4 votes

A lot of people dislike Riven & Yasuo players because their kits are toxic themselves. They do not rely on mana and can therefore constantly make mistakes without really much penalty, which makes them very annoying to play against or even see in the game.

This doesn't really mean it's fair to be toxic or critical towards these players, but that is generally why they are treated poorly.

18 NAKED COWB0YS2 votes

because their hp bars getting melted incredibly fast arent enough penalties.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

Considering over 50% of Riven players are between 50-125+ games and there are very few first time Riven players. Yet her win rate has bounced between 49-51% for a while now. She seems a little weak in lower League where scrubs like me cannot play her, and balanced in higher Leagues. So being resourceless or not hardly matters, if the champion doesn't win a large majority of their games their design is at most annoying, not unfair. She is also countered by nearly every tank or bruiser in the game, and a large number of supports.

Korillo1 votes

Whether she wins or loses is irrelevant to these people. They find her kit toxic and therefore the champion/person playing the champion toxic.

I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm just answering your initial question of "why are players so toxic towards Riven".

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

Fair enough. Just being devils advocate. I am a Shyvana main. Not Riven..;P

Parallelity2 votes

Riven actually gets punished really hard for messing up. Many toplaners have natural lifesteal, health regen, or rush lifesteal. So if riven messes up a trade, she comes out low health while the enemy can just heal it all back up.

Ralanr4 votes

My theory is that she had a very long period of power (like being FoTM for multiple months) that ended up attracting the worst people to her (as flavor of the month champions do) and ended up giving a lasting impression to the playerbase that anyone who played this champion is an asshole.

We see it a lot with FOTM champions.

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

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My theory is that she had a very long period of power (like being FoTM for multiple months) that ended up attracting the worst people to her (as flavor of the month champions do) and ended up giving a lasting impression to the playerbase that anyone who played this champion is an asshole.

We see it a lot with FOTM champions.

this is a likely theory.

my theory is that it was a running joke at one time because riven supposedly takes skill to play. just the same as how yasuo supposedly takes skill.and so when people would talk about her riven players would brag about their champion taking skill and shut down any counter argument with that argument.

Big Lincoln3 votes

fuck riven and fuck riven players

:^)

18 NAKED COWB0YS2 votes

p much why everyone that hates on riven is a jackass in my eyes.

midnight oil242 votes

Similar things happen in WoW. People will actually be classist, and sometimes treat you differently based on your class.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

I am familiar with being kicked from every raid for choosing Firemage, thank you :^) there is a reason I cringed in horror when Ghostcrawler came over to LoL.

midnight oil242 votes

Actually, I don't play WoW. But I've watched people play it, so I know what happens.

Swarovsko2 votes

They just can't play against her. It's like Janna. picks leona > enemy team outmasterd him picking Janna > "JENNA FRELOL THATZ NOT FAIR RITO NERF IT!1!" It's not that Janna is broken (she's over the top rn with all the items which allow her to have huge heals and shields) just because they outsmarted you by picking Janna. Zyra Braum Sona etc are good counters to Janna, but some people just won't get it, better cry on boards.

dominusx1 votes

same reason adc players are garbage.

Raiku Kawisa1 votes

I agree. So long as the Riven anyone is not flaming then i have no issue with them. At best I try to keep it limited to saying 'if you played better, we might have done better'

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

no u

Neamean1 votes

She was Yauso before Yasuo was even Yasuo. You don't question why its hated you just hate it.

Forhonor3211 votes

I think it comes down to a few things IMO.

  1. Her kit is just not that fun to play against. Like someone said ealier she was Yasuo before Yasuo. I mean she has almost an unlimited amount of dashes/bunny hops, a dash that ALSO gives a shield, an AoE stun, and a ranged cone execution that deals more damage based on missing health. Oh and resourceless. This is for at least the view of the enemy team.

  2. This is purely speeculation but people may be just quick to assume your a Riven main and because of that they'll likely try to make you rage quit. Now I'm only assuming this simply because as stated she's resourcless but also she may have drawn people to be mains of her, in the way that these are the worst kind of players to be with (selfish, egotistical assholes who think they can carry the game all by themselves or ragequit when they're the first to die or even worse continue to run head first into death)

I'll be honest, I even don't like it when I see a Riven in my games, especially on my team cause sometimes I don't know if they're those notorious Riven mains, but if they're not and do extremely well, then I'm fine with them. I just think it's the constant poor attitude of said notorious Riven mains that has someewhat embedded into everyone's mind whenever they see Riven now.

PermabannedGaren1 votes

It's not just Riven. Melee carry players in general get a lot of hatred.

I don't play much Riven, but I get just as much hate from people when I play Yasuo and to a lesser extent Master Yi.

Embers Remain1 votes

I sometimes have moments that I really want to give up the champion solely for this reason... Very, very tired of this shit. I have to take a break after one of those games where people like to contribute everything that went wrong on the rivenplayer. Just had a game where all lanes lost (mine too, against rumble who I don't yet have an idea how to play against), suddenly it's all my fault that we lost the game. People from the other team saying shit like 'when you buy the skin before the champion'. People acting like they win all their games and don't even consider how they would feel if they lost lane and got bashed for it by the other team. Ah well, back to the mute all I guess... Rant over

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