Kaisa's R does not provide a shield if she dies during the dash, but it goes on cooldown

Frontline Fury··7 votes·779 views

This is not exactly a bug, more of a gameplay health issue. Kaisa's ultimate provides her shield at the end of the dash - not the start of it - which means she might die during the dash, which puts her ultimate on its full cooldown despite not granting its effects.

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Partholonian4 votes

First of all, hats off to whoever managed to hit you mid dash. That is a FAST dash. Unless it was Karthus ult, I guess.

Anyway... Riot could change it so she gets the shield immediately, but the number of cases where it will matter is probably so low that they're willing to say "git gud and don't waste ult when you're already about to die".

It's not that different IMO than flashing away when an AA that is going to kill you is in midair -- learn not to do that, or waste your cooldown and die anyway, the choice is yours.

There are lots of ults where pressing it right before you die will waste most or all of its effect and still put it on cooldown. Not everyone can be Tryndamere.

GripaAviara3 votes

Every range auto attack if the dash is in auto range

LordGeovanni2 votes

That dash speed pretty much beats the wind up on auto attacks for most non adc champions

Cowgirl Ed3 votes

yeah and who says is not intended? shen receives his shield when the sword touches him, not when he presses q but shen is garbage so nvm

Frontline Fury1 votes

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yeah and who says is not intended? shen receives his shield when the sword touches him, not when he presses q but shen is garbage so nvm

Shen's target recieves his shield at the beginning of Shen's ultimate, not after he arrives. Galio's target recieves his damage reduction at the beginning of the channel, not after he lands.

But that is besides the point. My problem is not that Kaisa does not recieve the shield when she clicks the button - its that the ability can go on cooldown without actually doing anything.

Either make the shield instantaneous, or refund the cooldown if she never lands.

Cowgirl Ed1 votes

did you even read what i said? "he presses q" i wasn't talking about his ultimate obviously

GrReaper962 votes

It simply makes her mechanically more complex. It prevents her R from being a free escape tool and focuses its engaging potential. Pretty impressive actually. More skills, especially for divers, should be like this.

Ifneth1 votes

Yeah, she should get it at the start.

Jaspers1 votes

Isn't this like complaining if Vi gets killed during her unstoppable animation and no knockup or damage at the end and it going on full cooldown? You used the ult, it's on cooldown, seems fair.

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