Level 9 shaco with 80cs against a level 6 rammus with 31 cs. The rammus wins that match up no problem.
Up over 100 cs on the rammus and 4 LEVELS on him throughout the game.
The rammus still deserves to be able to 1v1 me and bully me.
I can totally see why this is balanced. Yep.
Hethalean2 votesYou mean... assassins can't kill tanks? Remarkable.
zarxus12341 votesYou mean... assassins can't kill tanks? Remarkable.
umm yeah. When i have over a 100 cs lead. 4 level lead on the tank. Shit ton more kills and assists than the enemy tank. Yeah i should be able to kill.
If you dont think someone getting that massive of a lead should have the pressure... not the other way around than i dont know what to tell you.
Hethalean2 votesPressure doesn't mean that you can 1v1 them in the jungle... I hope you actually know that. I suck (aka silver), and I know that. Pressure is about affecting lanes. Killing someone 1v1 in their jungle can mean that but it's not the only factor.
ZephyrDrake1 votesumm yeah. When i have over a 100 cs lead. 4 level lead on the tank. Shit ton more kills and assists than the enemy tank. Yeah i should be able to kill.
If you dont think someone getting that massive of a lead should have the pressure... not the other way around than i dont know what to tell you.
i would really love to know what you are talking about since there are no games in which you are Shaco and you have an enemy Rammus... let alone you ever having such a huge lead on anyone
zarxus12341 votesi would really love to know what you are talking about since there are no games in which you are Shaco and you have an enemy Rammus... let alone you ever having such a huge lead on anyone
i didnt leave the post game screen yet.... it might be up there now. Last game i played.
H1 H0w are Ya2 votesAn Assassin cant kill a tank?
Who would of thought
Also looking at your match history i do not see this game at all so idk what you are talking about
zarxus12341 voteshttps://www.twitch.tv/yassuo Then i watch this where a yasuo literally just 1v5'd the game. And i should be perfectly fine with the fact that i have a 5k gold lead on someone and can't kill them.
What a joke of a game.
Kai Guy2 voteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU2OjAFtMvU 1 v 5 you say? so uh,,, we using random videos with no context to typical gameplay as context to be salty now?
Automated Riven1 votesIf you aren't killing rammus as a level 9 shaco with a 60 cs lead, either you had tons of gold in the bank or you misplayed pretty bad. That's like a entire item lead. Especially if you had kills to back it up. Either way tanks are designed to operate on a lower gold income the assassins.
Kai Guy2 voteseh... Flash Q excape. Not much shaco can do there if he cant drop ram with QE and a auto. Op is on a crusade to remove all counterplay for his champion. Check his posts, guys just asking to gut the classes that counter him because he snowballs from the classes he counters so that should be enough to win all the games all the time and its really unfair to him that he is so much better then theses other players who just play broken champion.
Its that Kills win games mentality like LOL is Team deathmatch halo or something.
zarxus12341 votes[{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RrbllkGI,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-01-17T21:28:06.544+0000)
eh... Flash Q excape. Not much shaco can do there if he cant drop ram with QE and a auto. Op is on a crusade to remove all counterplay for his champion. Check his posts, guys just asking to gut the classes that counter him because he snowballs from the classes he counters so that should be enough to win all the games all the time and its really unfair to him that he is so much better then theses other players who just play broken champion.
Its that Kills win games mentality like LOL is Team deathmatch halo or something.
i just want a fair and balanced game. That's what i want. Whats not fair and balanced is when i have a 5k gold lead on the enemy jungler and 4 level lead... he is the one with the kill pressure.
Yeah getting the lead i had on my opponent is me being better than my opponent. He shouldn't be rewarded based solely on the champion he picked.
But its funny you dont have an argument for the rammus being the one with the pressure on me so you just say something along the lines of he just complaining because the rammus in that game was definitely the better player.
The difference between you and me. I actually want a balanced game and discuss why things are broken. You don't.
Kai Guy2 votesI want you to stop acting behaving that removal of the counters to your favorite 1 trick would be of any benefit to the playerbase. I want you to stop spamming threads complaining about the class that counters you. You play a majority of the time as shaco jungle, you attack your counters and your discussions about balance can be summarized as RITO Gut my counters! Everything Other problem player have is wrong because I never have to deal with the, my issues are priority!
Out of respect for the universal rules I will not post some quotes from you. Instead I will encourage others to just click on your name, bring up your recent posts and check your match history themselves before participating in this thread.
Now as far as this current discussion on ram despite your attitude in every part of this post, you had more impact that game, you won that round, your impact was much higher then ram. Your asking to remove game balance to buff your playstyle. Please stop acting like its for the games health. Assassins are opportunistic, you get your window you take advantage you thrive, you don't get to just be Good all the time vs everything. You act like your counters GET to do this and the only grain of truth in your rants is in all fairness they do for the simple reason you chose do the same thing in almost every match playing by playing just 1 champion. It applies to you so negatively because of the decisions you make as a player, ts not reflective of game health.
Paper is not op because it beats rock, paper becomes a problem if you throw rock 100% of the time.
zarxus12341 votes[{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RrbllkGI,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-18T00:52:40.980+0000)
I want you to stop acting behaving that removal of the counters to your favorite 1 trick would be of any benefit to the playerbase. I want you to stop spamming threads complaining about the class that counters you. You play a majority of the time as shaco jungle, you attack your counters and your discussions about balance can be summarized as RITO Gut my counters! Everything Other problem player have is wrong because I never have to deal with the, my issues are priority!
Out of respect for the universal rules I will not post some quotes from you. Instead I will encourage others to just click on your name, bring up your recent posts and check your match history themselves before participating in this thread.
Now as far as this current discussion on ram despite your attitude in every part of this post, you had more impact that game, you won that round, your impact was much higher then ram. Your asking to remove game balance to buff your playstyle. Please stop acting like its for the games health. Assassins are opportunistic, you get your window you take advantage you thrive, you don't get to just be Good all the time vs everything. You act like your counters GET to do this and the only grain of truth in your rants is in all fairness they do for the simple reason you chose do the same thing in almost every match playing by playing just 1 champion. It applies to you so negatively because of the decisions you make as a player, ts not reflective of game health.
Paper is not op because it beats rock, paper becomes a problem if you throw rock 100% of the time.
From your comment you are implying that i want to 1v5 games. Oh i got a kill and therefore i deserve to kill everyone. But at some point me being better than my opponent needs to reflect it.
I counter adc's. But even if they get 1 or 2 levels ahead of me and gold lead they kill me.
Its not like i was slightly ahead the rammus. I was so absurdly far ahead of this rammus. This rammus played so horribly. He went my blue fail gank bot. To his red. To his blue. Recalled at level 3. Then went to gank bot again.
I was 4 levels ahead of him. 5k gold ahead of him. And he had the kill pressure on me. Do you honestly think thats balanced? I'll reiterate my point. At some point being better than my opponent needs to reflect that, regardless of counters.
Kai Guy1 votesTell ya what, Post the replay. Lets remove us arguing pointlessly and save me the trouble of having to hunt over OP GG to double check your information.
" reiterate my point. At some point being better than my opponent needs to reflect that, regardless of counters." It did reflect that, its in your score vs his, in your participation vs his, you killed him twice after you had items. Your teams win! his team lost. Ram played badly enough that it hurt his allies. That's a pretty clean cut sign of a players impact and skill right?
If you Truly feel its unfair or unbalanced, Post the replay.
Automated Riven1 votes[{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RrbllkGI,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-01-17T21:28:06.544+0000)
eh... Flash Q excape. Not much shaco can do there if he cant drop ram with QE and a auto. Op is on a crusade to remove all counterplay for his champion. Check his posts, guys just asking to gut the classes that counter him because he snowballs from the classes he counters so that should be enough to win all the games all the time and its really unfair to him that he is so much better then theses other players who just play broken champion.
Its that Kills win games mentality like LOL is Team deathmatch halo or something.
While yes, rammus can escape. Rammus should not be killing shaco in a 1v1 if shaco is up 2.5-3k gold at level 9-6 with that disparity. For heaven's sake rammus probably only had 1200 health. That's like 6 autos for a 1-1/2 item shaco. Even with armor. The op played badly or had like 2k in his pocket when the fight happened.
If I am wrong feel free to post a replay.
Kai Guy1 votesThe op had 0 deaths the Game he is complaining about. Op is upset he failed to get a kill as an assassin vs a tank and is making out like that individual moment of the match had any impact on the games outcome. 7-0-8 as shaco with 50% participation vs Rammus who went 2/6/3 38% and he feels that the match needed to be even more 1 sided for him.