Is Rylai's going to be reworked after the post season?

Linna Excel··1 votes·260 views

item 3116 Rylai's

At one point it was almost mandatory on every mid laner. Then riot nerfed because every midlaner was getting it but they also buffed morellos so every midlaner had to get that, so good bye consistency. Nowadays it's not really gotten at all.

Why is that?

Well it's too weak across the board. It doesn't give enough HP for tanks to want it. It doesn't give enough AP for midlaners. The slow is either too weak or too quick to get it for soft CC; it's more of a small extra at this point. It needs a little TLC

So as I see it, the item has a few options:

  • focus it as a tank item, drop the AP and add either armor or mr to it.
  • focus it as an AP mid item and give it 100 AP, modify the HP as needed.
  • give it a general buff (80 AP 400 HP) so that it is a little more attractive to everyone.
  • give it +15 mr an increase the slow duration to 3 seconds so it combos nicely with liandry's.

8 Comments

sheldonbunny3 votes

I want it to stay an AP item. I still find it incredibly useful on many champions. As long as the effect and it having AP/HP stay, i'm fine with them messing around with the numbers.

Linna Excel1 votes

Keeping it an AP focus item would be my preference, but IDK if that's what riot would do.

The more I think about it, the more I'd like to see it with these stats:

300 HP 80 AP +15 MR

10% slow that lasts for 3 seconds (only the initial damage of a dot applies it).

Ahris1 votes

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Keeping it an AP focus item would be my preference, but IDK if that's what riot would do.

The more I think about it, the more I'd like to see it with these stats:

300 HP 80 AP +15 MR

10% slow that lasts for 3 seconds (only the initial damage of a dot applies it).

10% slow is garbage stats btw. The current slow is already kinda bad.

Riot needs to make single target spells to slow more as most mages have aoe so they cant use it, and champs with single target spells should have some advantage over single target sometimes.

Linna Excel1 votes

I was thinking the slow had to be kind of weak if you wanted it to last for 3 seconds. I mean that's still 32 MS on the slowest champ of the game for a full 3 seconds. Over time, it adds up.

Ahris1 votes

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I was thinking the slow had to be kind of weak if you wanted it to last for 3 seconds. I mean that's still 32 MS on the slowest champ of the game for a full 3 seconds. Over time, it adds up.

The point of slow is to provide enough for you to kite. 32 ms is close to nothing and the enemy will catch up to you.

People will prefer huge slow instantly than a slow over 3 sec. This is because mages will use multiple spells to kite, they dont need additonal 3 secs. 30% slow for 1 sec is way better than 10% slow over 3 sec as it is much more mobility.

Catastrop2 votes

I don't know why they couldn't have just reverted the item to pre-mymu status. It was a good item that fulfilled its intended niche enough to warrant its existence. It could even be built by mages without them being super overbearing. By all accounts, it was a fine item imo.

Linna Excel1 votes

I think riot's reasoning was if everyone was getting it, it was too good. Like item 3165.

So they nerfed it to be a little more situational, but I think riot went overboard and didn't look back.

Mordepool1 votes

I actually get harrased by people telling me to build it on Mordekaiser.

They seem confused when I don't

It's a trash item why would I build it on a struggling Champion as it is

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