Is it really appropriate

PhearBunny··1 votes·717 views

That Renektons lvl 3 rotation 100% to 20%'s the highest base armor champions in the game? Like, really? really?

Really tho? Really? Boneplating+ Aftershock and all, eh who cares Renekton with a Dorans blade and Conq(Not even activated) gonna 3 shot you anyways. Working as intended.

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SEKAI2 votes

Renekton was called the "Butcher of Top Lane" for a reason.

And if you noticed the past tense, that's because currently Renekton is basically only relevant because of his level 3 power spike. Nowadays, Renekton is just average. Nothing to stress yourself over, really. Either play one of those broken tops and start abusing him in early levels, or play safer in lane and watch Renekton fall off a cliff as soon as after he peaks between level 3-6.

Wait until you get a good load of that Tahm top lmao. Then you'd know what real despair feels like.

Hotarµ1 votes

Let's use Leona as an example, even though she realistically won't go top lane.

At level 3, Leona's base armor (which is the highest in the game starting at lvl 1) and armor growth would give her 52 armor. Add the +12 armor from stat shards to that and Leona can have as high as 64 armor at level 3 (if she doesn't start a cloth armor.)

64 armor gives about 39% physical damage reduction. Assuming Renekton hits you with an empowered E, that armor is reduced to 48 and instead reduces 33% of physical damage.

With 75 damage (base damage + 3 levels of AD/level) and 12 more AD from stat shards, Renekton's full combo does:

Q - 65 (+70) = 135 reduced to [90] W - 10 (+112.5) = 123 (rounded up from 122.5) reduced to [82] W AA reset - 87 reduced to [58] E (Slice) - 40 (+78) reduced to [79] Empowered E (Dice) - 117 (+70) reduced to **[125] **

##For a grand total of [434] damage post-mitigation.

At level 3 and with a Doran's Shield, Leona's max health would be 705. If you ate a full Renekton combo it would only deal 61.5% of her max health, which really isn't that shocking considering that Renekton is a highly aggressive laner.

PhearBunny1 votes

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Let's use Leona as an example, even though she realistically won't go top lane.

At level 3, Leona's base armor (which is the highest in the game starting at lvl 1) and armor growth would give her 52 armor. Add the +12 armor from stat shards to that and Leona can have as high as 64 armor at level 3 (if she doesn't start a cloth armor.)

64 armor gives about 39% physical damage reduction. Assuming Renekton hits you with an empowered E, that armor is reduced to 48 and instead reduces 33% of physical damage.

With 75 damage (base damage + 3 levels of AD/level) and 12 more AD from stat shards, Renekton's full combo does: W - 10 (+112.5) = 123 (rounded up from 122.5) reduced to [82] W AA reset - 87 reduced to [58] E (Slice) - 40 (+78) reduced to [79] Empowered E (Dice) - 117 (+70) reduced to **[125] **

At level 3 and with a Doran's Shield, Leona's max health would be 705. If you ate a full Renekton combo it would only deal 61.5% of her max health, which really isn't that shocking considering that Renekton is a highly aggressive laner.

He's also a resourceless sustain tank. So i dont think that kind of damage is really appropriate on something like Leona. I mean put the next 3 auto attacks(conq will be up), and ignite into the equation and youre dead with no counterplay, even though u have the highest base armor in the game. Thats just not right.

Hotarµ1 votes

He's also a resourceless sustain tank. So i dont think that kind of damage is really appropriate on something like Leona. I mean put the next 3 auto attacks(conq will be up), and ignite into the equation and youre dead with no counterplay, even though u have the highest base armor in the game. Thats just not right.

Don't start changing the scenario. You said one full ability rotation is enough to take 4/5ths of someone's HP, which is false.

Also, if I did factor in runes and masteries, it would probably result in the tank taking even less damage because of Aftershock, Bone Plating, and Overgrowth.

Tanks can take time to scale, some tanks have very weak early games whereas Renekton's is pretty good. Don't take full combos to the face, it's not that hard.

PhearBunny1 votes

There is'nt really much of a choice but to take a full rotation to the face as most tanks(if you want any CS). Maybe doing 4/5ths of their health is an exaggeration, but his rotation, still is going to chunk you well below 50% health, which isnt something a sustain tank should be doing to you at lvl3, with a Dorans Sword and unactivated Conqueror. I just think Renektons power needs to be redistributed, he is just annoyingly outrageously broken in lane phase, so much so that he may as well be Tahm Kench.

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