A mobile support mobilely offering tons of strategic mobility to his team? Wow that's totally sweet I can't wait I don't know how we'll learn to play with a mobile champion, this is seriously breaking new ground and I can't wait to see how the meta evolves to embrace this crazy new paradigm of mobility.
Drunken Mutt1 votesHe has speed boosts and a portal that everyone can walk through he's not mobility creep.
AkabaneKun2 votesHe has speed boosts and a portal that everyone can walk through he's not mobility creep.
He gives mobility creep to others.
MrSc0tty2 votesHe has speed boosts and a portal that everyone can walk through he's not mobility creep.
You mean the ability to grant your entire team a wall jump, speed boosts for himself, and speed boosts for allies is not mobility creep.
Would you say Thresh's lamp, with it's ability to give champs like Vi a 3000 unit engage is not mobility creep?
Because Bards portal is even better.
DJ Di01 votesYou mean the ability to grant your entire team a wall jump, speed boosts for himself, and speed boosts for allies is not mobility creep.
Would you say Thresh's lamp, with it's ability to give champs like Vi a 3000 unit engage is not mobility creep?
Because Bards portal is even better.
You glossed over the fact that even enemies can use it as well. That will offer both counterplay and more decision-making for the ability.
MrSc0tty2 votes[{quoted}](name=DJ Di0,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RjANnLVL,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2015-02-25T19:29:48.990+0000)
You glossed over the fact that even enemies can use it as well. That will offer both counterplay and more decision-making for the ability.
Sure, so it's not an escape. It's just an instant 2000-unit engage, 40-50% of a teleport when used to get back to lane during laning phase for both him and his ADC and a 5-man walljump. These kinds of things that stack with the huge mobility already present in the game are what phases out champions who don't bring any mobility at all to the table. When a Vi takes a thresh lamp from bot tower and engages an enemy in the 2nd bush while her allied Lucian follows up with his instant dash, the only solution is "well next game I should play Caitlyn/Corki/Graves instead of Varus/Ashe/MF because they have the only tool that exists to counter mobility, more mobility. It's the exact same situation when Bard sends himself, his carry and his allied Lee Sin from the side jungle entrance to the river bush with his portal. The counterplay to that is "use your mobility now to escape". Sure there are situations where an immobile champ will have available counterplay to follow Bard, but if it's a bait, guess what: a mobile champ is fine, an immobile champ is fucked.
The message is clear here: We will only continue to increase the amount of mobility in the game. We will release champions with fast skillshot cc, instant dashes and global teleports where the intended counterplay is 'use your champion's mobility or play a mobile champ next time'. And we will continue to balance the game in favor of that mobility by nerfing or removing its counters and increasing its availability.
Moniky1 votesDon't forget that enemys can also go through this portal, but it is one way
DJ Di01 votesI'm going to go out on a limb here and say you're being sarcastic.
I disagree with your points; there hasn't been a support with a roaming style since Alistar. With Bard having to roam everywhere to collect his chimes, we may see roles being distributed differently. Maybe you'll see a Ziggs solo bot to prevent pushing from a standard duo lane, while the adc is placed in the shorter lane (mid) to be safer from ganks. Maybe you'll see more 'duo' jungling with him.