Why is vayne considered to have a weak early

Knight SoIaire ··3 votes·841 views

she trades with other champions on bot rather good she can even afford to start some agression on her own

why people just say she is somehow insanely weak during the early game when she seems to handle it quite good if not etter than some other champions ?

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FalconPawwwwnch3 votes

Because they like to make it sound like she's balanced

She has a 53% WR and is one of the top popular picks in diamond right now, the only ADCs with higher win rates are both getting nerfed next patch (ashe and sivir)

BluePolarizer2 votes

You don't win against Vayne by trading alone. That's a misconception. Vayne trades extremely well. You win against Vayne, I believe, by pushing and harassing while CSing using AOE and range.

supes the lost1 votes

Pretty much, you shut out vayne by outranging her and making her unable to farm, her only real weakness is her short auto attack range and her reliance on auto attacks to do damage.

WalkingInACircle2 votes

She's not, but you can hardly say she's weak lategame now can you?

Her real weakness is her short range.

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

so all those people just say random nonsence huh (well i kinda expected such an answer)?

well thanks for explaining

NoMonku2 votes

Vayne is a REALLY weak ADC early on in the game. If you just matchup numbers, she should lose in power against most every other ADC in the game early on if they can land their abilities. Her real strength is in her late game power, her strong dueling ability, and her outplay potential.

She has no wave clearing ability, which makes it so she can get pushed into tower very easily. Early in the game, minions do a significant amount of damage, so you having no/less minions then your lane opponent means that if you fight, you should end up taking more overall damage then them if they play correctly.

Her range is fairly short for an ADC, making it so champions like Caitlyn Ashe can hit her before she has any chance of touching them. That is also just their AA. Most other champions have abilities that outrange their AA range which they can use to harass Vayne down before she can even touch them.

Salidfingers1 votes

Vayne has low range making it easier to zone her out when she tries to last hit. If you do everything right you can come back with BF before vayne and win lane.

but as the saying goes: Vayne loses lane, but win games

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

so she can get hard countered thats an argument and a valid one

still crap hits the fan when vaynes support can provide her with aan all in but its a valid argument

still i dont know if thats enough to label her as weak early

Salidfingers1 votes

Caitlin was vary popular for bullying vayne and with the buff coming soon she might have a better late game making it harder for vayne.

Xinotine1 votes

Imo Vayne has a lot skill matchups. Take Caitlyn for example. She is said to counter Vayne. However, her Q is perfectly dodgeble with Vayne Q, and if Vayne dodges Piltower Peacemakers Cait can only poke her with autos that don't hurt too much early if Vayne keeps track on headshots and forces Cait to use it on minion or lose CS. If Vayne is good enough she can come from lane even and then outscale Caitlyn mid-late.

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