I have only been playing since s3? What would happen if LOL was like any other game and you could just leave. Was this ever the case before s3? I was just wondering cause i don't see too many people that mind winning due to shenanigans so why would you mind if everyone just said screw it like in COD? A win is a win and a loss is a loss. Why does taking 50 minutes to do it matter? Isn't it just as good to break a team so bad they throw up their hands?
Terff8 votesWell then we'd see people who have their team give first blood then leave immediately
Occams Raiser1 votesSo what? you would just play another game. I know why you cant leave ranked but why not normals
they dont count for much. Would the community be worse for it? If someone trolls... so be it, im out. onto another game.
Zmuecat5 votesBecause then game would go like this.
I get first blood. Enemy quits. 4v5 Enemy quits. 3v5 Enemy quits. 0v5
GUESS I'LL JUST QUEUE UP AGAIN
Enemy gets first blood. Ally quits. 5v4 "Man, screw it" 5v2 Ally quits 5v1 Huh
GUESS I'LL JUST QUEUE UP AGAIN
Player 2 "Screw you guys, I don't support" Player quits. 4v5
Occams Raiser1 votesYou are using current toxicity in your thought process. Think the other way. When you can leave trolls and feeders dont bother you cause you can just queue up again. When no one is toxic they dont quit after first blood. That comes from losing FB and then waisting another 30 minutes with someone with their head up their ass. in COD a lot of people dont leave game till they are taking a relentless beating or they get trolled. I have had hundreds of games that went just fine. In this a troll has you by the nuts and you get tired of seeing people waste your time. When you can leave, a failed game can be whatever type of learning experience you want. When you grow tired of last hit practice you dip.
GaleWinUnleashed2 votesSure, then it's supposedly good for the person who leaves. But that leaver just screwed over their entire team. The game isn't decided until the nexus actually explodes, but if someone is allowed to leave, their team's morale instantly drops to rock bottom.
Overall positivity in League (which admittedly isn't great, even at the best of times) would probably plummet if teams weren't locked together until the Victory/Defeat screen. It's a team game for a reason; giving individual players more ways to impact the entire game experience for everybody else is not likely to be a good thing.
This kind of feature is tailored for those that are playing as individuals, which is not the intent of League of Legends. In the ideal scenario, we want players to be thinking "What can I do to increase my team's chances of success in this situation?" rather than "How do my stats look?" We don't want League to turn into COD. It's a horrible role model for a game that wants to encourage a positive and team-oriented experience.
LifeCyclesTWA1 votesFor a lot of members in the LoL community, LoL is already JUST LIKE CoD. Thats why you get people that say,
GaleWinUnleashed1 votesVery true. I think it best not to make the game too similar, though, in order to avoid falling even further.
Occams Raiser1 votesRiot doesn't do a good job of promoting teamwork. That is a demonstrable fact. But maybe in their defense, a game that can take up to and hour where poor game play and sportsmanship can make it feel like a waste of time, toxicity is an inherent factor. Just somehow if the game didn't take so long, you bad games would matter lest. I don't see how anyone that plays this game can say its just casual. It seems like a major time investment to play just to dick around. I'm still shocked there are trolls. They have all that time just to lose. They would rather make others lose than play to win. I'm not a loser so I will never get it I guess.
Colgate Gator3 votesBecause then game would go like this.
I get first blood. Enemy quits. 4v5 Enemy quits. 3v5 Enemy quits. 0v5
GUESS I'LL JUST QUEUE UP AGAIN
Enemy gets first blood. Ally quits. 5v4 "Man, screw it" 5v2 Ally quits 5v1 Huh
GUESS I'LL JUST QUEUE UP AGAIN
Player 2 "Screw you guys, I don't support" Player quits. 4v5
This, pretty much.
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Occams Raiser1 votesOk so there is some data there. So it seems there is no way to stop toxicity and the destruction of legit play at low levels. Causing it to be a thing where you just have grind and put in enough time to get a series of games that isn't ruined by f-tards. Sounds fun. they don't want you to leave but they don't punish the fail or the trolls. What a game world. I guess humans are just horrible in mass anyway you slice em.
GaleWinUnleashed1 votesThe bad community isn't really something that can be solved by Riot. Yes, some features may swing things one way or another, but in the end it all comes down to the players themselves. Leavers are easy to punish because there's no subjectivity involved. You left the game? BAM, LeaverBuster. Trolls and toxicity are far harder to detect with automated systems.
tonzillacrayon2 votesthis is a strategy game like chess, thats like allowing anyone to come in and play on a sports team or chess team just doesnt make sense. Its not like a shooter where the fun is just running around shooting your gun.
Occams Raiser1 votesIm not sure what point you are making by your phrasing. Anyone can come a play LOL. In chess people are respectful of the game and you can give up anytime you feel you can no longer win. No one comes and flips the board and runs of yelling trolololol. If they did every one would kick their ass. Leaving should be just another game in normals play as long as you want. but don't drag me into it. Leaving is a greater offense than trolling in LOL. Funny that way. Its like herpes being worse than AIDS.
blkh12 votesI say, if you just leave a game, then you should be banned from games for an hour plus the length of time of the game. That doubles with each time after that you leave a game. It also shouldn't start over each day. It just keeps adding up. Why just stop? I have had games where we were 20+ kills down and still won in the end. Might take 45 minutes, but that is just the game. You start it, you finish it.
xX420n0sc0pzXx1 votesI say, if you just leave a game, then you should be banned from games for an hour plus the length of time of the game. That doubles with each time after that you leave a game. It also shouldn't start over each day. It just keeps adding up. Why just stop?
so people would have even more of a reason to smurf?
Occams Raiser1 votesBut what is the difference? People feel a certain way but I dont know why. What if the other team has 2 people that want to leave. but they cant so they play like shit and turn into trolls. Why do you want to win like that. if they get down on themselves and want to leave cause they dont think there is anything to learn, what is the point? Everyone says its just a game. Im just talking normals for the most part.
Maybe they could have won maybe not. But you won. so what is the difference. Today you get the win, tomorrow they do.
Big Bang Bob2 votesI could see if someone could fill the spot or a bot could take over or something, but if my lol games consist of spending 10 minutes in team builder just for my laner to leave because I whooped them or one of my teammates quit for a similar reason, I fear I will quickly run out of brain cells and die horribly.
I mean, just imagine if the second you heard "Hostile (Any kill/score streak) inbound" everyone on the enemy team simultaneously left the game. The shear anticlimax would destroy you (or at the very least make you do something else).
Occams Raiser2 votesI don't see why someone couldn't fill at the afk level with his gold actually. At worse case come in his place if you want to quick queue. I don't think people would leave like you think. The would weigh requeuing time before leaving like you would. It doesn't happen in COD much. Everything is random in COD and people know how to game for killstreaks. In LOL you get a penta and proceed to do jack shit with your gold if you suck at objectives. Its like playing on domination. You see the sniper killing. but he is still losing. Unless he gets a lodestar or swarm I don't give shit.
Big Bang Bob2 votesI guess you have a point there. League games are usually funnest when actually finish too, so leavers might not be so bad. Trolls would be a threat though, as lame of a way to troll that would be.
Occams Raiser1 votesTrolls would be the same but they would have less power cause you could just go get another game almost instantly.
UberAffe1 votesin normals I don't believe it would really be a problem, however ranked is a completely different matter. COD doesn't have a competitive ranking like league does. A lost game of COD doesn't change who you will face the next round but in league it does make a difference.
Occams Raiser1 votesI can understand that. I dont get the whole You cant leave unless your team says so or you get a spanking... normals
Occams Raiser1 votesMaybe their should be a practice PVP mode where leaving is OK?
Raptamei1 votesIn HotS you can leave fairly frequently and a bot takes your place.
Occams Raiser1 votesThat sounds good.
Terff1 votesBecause we totally want one of Riot's hight quality bots taking over for a player and feeding insanely hard, hell I'd rather have a 4v5
COWmanLord1 votesWell in my experience most games do penalize you in some kind of way for leaving mid match. Generally it is a much less severe punishment, but you still get punished. The difference in those games however is that you are 1 out of 10+ people rather than 1 out of 5 which is actually a very big difference.