440 armor, 3.3k health as Leona vs. 4 AD's

darkdill·Feb 15, 2015·13 votes·1,391 views

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1730498193/197504?tab=overview

579 armor while Eclipse is active.

Still take loads of physical damage in 1v1 or 1v2 fights.

#RiotHatesTanks

35 Comments

NarasimhaFeb 15, 20158 votes

I'm not sure I see the point here. No matter how much armor or health you have, you're going to die eventually. Offense is DESIGNED to outscale defense. So what are you complaining about?

darkdillFeb 15, 20154 votes

That perhaps Offense outscales Defense too hard? Or that Last Whisper is too nasty for its cost?

NarasimhaFeb 15, 20151 votes

Oh, I definetly agree on the last part, LW could use a bump in its price. But otherwise, its pretty fine. Otherwise we'd just be back in S2 with the League of Tanks.

GunpointFeb 15, 20152 votes

I'm for real fine with a League of Tanks... sick of assassins and adcs.

NarasimhaFeb 15, 20152 votes

If you are ok with it, then you weren't here for it. And if you weren't here for it, then you don't know how utterly frustrating it was.

redniwediSFeb 15, 20155 votes

1v4, yet complains about taking too much damage.

Seems legit.

darkdillFeb 15, 20153 votes

Did I say they were 1v4 fights? No.

redniwediSFeb 15, 20154 votes

You're one person, and 4 AD champions are focusing you. Might as well be a 1v4 for the sake of conversation.

Good thing you didn't have anyone who deals true damage against you, might have thrown off your calculations a bit. Irelia MasterYi

darkdillFeb 15, 20153 votes

Yi was still killing himself before he could kill me. Challenging Smite makes the target deal 20% less damage to me.

Only Irelia and Azir could hurt me, but the Azir was pretty bad.

redniwediSFeb 15, 20153 votes

He was killing himself on you? So he was dealing his true damage to you? True damage doesn't get reduced, and if four people are targeting you a 1 for 1 might be good, but you can't honestly expect to tank it all and live.

Defensive stats postpone your death, if you want to tank damage all day you need sustain, which Leona does not have.

darkdillFeb 15, 20152 votes

His lifesteal was basically negated by how much armor I had, so his crits were making Thornmail deal a lot of damage to him per strike he made against me. The true damage didn't do enough to take me out before Thorns would kill him.

That or my attacks, Sunfire and Iceborn Gauntlet would kill him because he went glass cannon.

redniwediSFeb 15, 20154 votes

You already covered that. You could kill the Yi. We get it.

Four people could kill you as well, and that's the part I'm focusing on. Four against one, you were lucky to get one kill out of it while playing a tank.

GunpointFeb 15, 20151 votes

You got tons of armor, didn't mention magic resist... And so ofc the enemy Azir would hurt you, he's super strong. Invested completely into armor, and felt the full effects of little magic resist vs Azir.

darkdillFeb 15, 20151 votes

Azir was support. He didn't go pure AP, so his damage was rather weak.

DrukyulFeb 15, 20154 votes

Some bruiser/assassin hybrid champ with 2-3 items can 1v1 (and sometimes 1v2) anything in the game? "it's a team game, you're not supposed to be able to solo that champ"

A tank fully built to counter the enemy team can barely even stay alive in a 1v2 for more than a few seconds? "why do you think you should be able to do anything alone noob?"

darkdillFeb 15, 20154 votes

I know, the logic sometimes...

Big Bang BobFeb 15, 20154 votes

How fast were you dying? How much damage were they doing to you?

Leti the YetiFeb 15, 20152 votes

the more armor you build, the less it pay off in % reduction aby the time you hit 75% damage reduction, you really should have just stacked warmogs maybe you would have lived longer

like idgaf if u have 550 armor, the damage reduction is NOT LINEAR

RazorTSFeb 15, 20154 votes

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the more armor you build, the less it pay off in % reduction aby the time you hit 75% damage reduction, you really should have just stacked warmogs maybe you would have lived longer

like idgaf if u have 550 armor, the damage reduction is NOT LINEAR

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Armor read it, watch video and stop talking nonsense like that

Leti the YetiFeb 15, 20152 votes

what i grabbed from the wiki in like .23 seconds

Examples:

25 armor → ×0.8 incoming physical damage (20% reduction, +25% effective health). 100 armor → ×0.5 incoming physical damage (50% reduction, +100% effective health).

i interpreted this as non linear scaling idk, im not very good at the complicated stoof

RazorTSFeb 15, 20152 votes

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what i grabbed from the wiki in like .23 seconds 100 armor → ×0.5 incoming physical damage (50% reduction, +100% effective health).

WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT... IT'S NOT LINEAR :D LOOOOOOOOOL alright man, i think your precious wiki just checkmated you

read again schools in NA failing hard

Leti the YetiFeb 15, 20153 votes

for future reference; ad hominem attacking my identity does not buff you're argument but i concede nontheless

-tips hat :) -

RazorTSFeb 15, 20152 votes

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for future reference; ad hominem attacking my identity does not buff you're argument but i concede nontheless

-tips hat :) -

I dont need to buff any arguments, check again, if it took you that long to be wrong means your schools are failing dont care where which school you went, what religion, color, sex ,eye or hair color you are and you might be my neighbor for all i care. Not trying to do anything to your identity as i cherish my own. No need to be touchy about that

CindikleFeb 15, 20152 votes

It's really not the schools. It's the parents. Our country relies on the government too much.

CindikleFeb 15, 20153 votes

Each point of armor increases the damage needed to kill you by 1%. This is where the linear part comes in.

The reduction is not linear. But the survivability is.

If it takes an ADC 5 seconds to kill you at 0 armor. It will take them 10 at 100 armor. And 15 at 200 armor. The point of his post was that at some point building HP would of been more effective than more armor. But overall he should of built some damage. Leona with a Trinity Force can be quite scary. Since you had IBG already, picking up an Abyssal for the AP/MR reduction could of been more beneficial while proving a damage boost for your team. Probably drop the sunfire/FH for Abyssal/Omen.

darkdillFeb 15, 20152 votes

Here's the thing, though: 550 armor means Last Whisper will only reduce you to about 330-ish armor, which means you should still be virtually immune to physical damage.

None of my enemies had Black Cleaver. I was still reducing their physical by about 75% even if they had LW.

Yandere CarryFeb 15, 20151 votes

wrong. It does not actually give diminishing returns.

EDIT: To clarify, 1 armor increases EFFECTIVE health by 1%, 2 by 2%... so on and so forth.

Killer X 12Feb 15, 20152 votes

lol and you had Tabi that blocks 10% of AA damage by default. Yea, building tank almost feels like its not worth it when they have Last Whispers, Black Cleavers, Ghostblades, and Borks. Espcially with AD's having so many dashes and crap, they just kite you, bork you, kite you some more, you die lol.

lojicianFeb 15, 20152 votes

It's not so much that riot hates tanks as that they trip over themselves to cater to adcs.

SookoFeb 15, 20152 votes

It once took a full build Fiora 3 seconds to kill me as Braum with 300 Armor and 3k+ HP. I cri.

The DrewprintFeb 15, 20151 votes

item 3070

AFK PushFeb 15, 20152 votes

Well you did more damage than your Jinx and your Draven , btw wtf is with your teamcomp anyways? Were you guys trolling?

GunpointFeb 15, 20152 votes

You know, I normally agree with these types of things, but for real? Leona is a great tank. She dishes out tons of cc AND deals decent damage without actually building any. The built in resistances from her abilities are good as well. She doesn't really have a problem surviving.

cFlameFeb 15, 20151 votes

You did build very little health, allowing the magic damage from they're abilities to ignore your armor. But... I don't know if you should have died. I need a clip or something.

darkdillFeb 15, 20151 votes

The enemy had 3 BoRKs, so a Warmog's would have been a bad idea. I had so much armor that even with Last Whispers, they wouldn't be able to penetrate it.

Having some life regen would've been nice, but I felt Iceborn Gauntlet was a better investment than an Ohmwrecker. =/