Leonas 5s CD Q buff

PhearBunny··1 votes·1,101 views

Jungle Leona is back boys.

And shes strong.

Core items: Boots of Mobility+Deadmans Plate. Situational items: Warrior enchantment.(If youre winning) Cinderhulk enchantment(If youre losing) Trinity force(If your well farmed/fed) Frozen Gauntlet(If you arent wealthy) defensive items/support items as needed.

Warrior+Trinity/or Gauntlet is all the damage you need in your itemization to be significantly dangerous. Wits end in some circumstances.

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JuiceBoxP1 votes

warrior enchantment on a champion that has ap scaling? interesting.

PhearBunny2 votes

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warrior enchantment on a champion that has ap scaling? interesting.

The purpose of Warrior on her is that her Q is such a short CD AA reset, that shes essentially attack speed capped at lvl1. Which really lets her capitalize and make the most out of AD. AP builds on Leona require a Lichbane and atleast one pure AP item to have any agency whatsoever- So it doesnt work. If you go AP Leona, youre gonna have 8k gold when everyone else has 12k+ gold. If you go AD(Warrior/Trinity) you dont have a ramp up time into relevance, youre always relevant and dangerous. And it takes something like 400AP+ Lichbane for a AP Leona build to deal more damage than a AD Leona build.

JuiceBoxP2 votes

leona jungle is just a terrible, terrible idea.

PhearBunny1 votes

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leona jungle is just a terrible, terrible idea.

clears 4seconds faster than Nocturne after these buffs. Better pre-6 ganks than a Nocturne. Better mid/late game presence than a Nocturne. If shes better than Nocturne, shes atleast a B+ tier jungler.

theyre gonna have to revert this Q buff and buff something else, they made her too strong in her off-role as a jungler. Nearly 100% stun uptime just on Q now, at level 1, she can duel a Leesin at lvl 2, and win.

JuiceBoxP1 votes
  1. she's not better than nocturne, in any way. Just because you stated a "fact" doesn't mean it's true.
  2. this tactic might work in low elo normal games, not even in low elo ranked games.

in 9.16

leona jungle had a whopping 3,626 ranked matches across all ranks with a terrible 42.9% winrate .

36.73% winrate in platinum+ over 294 games /w a pickrate of <0.1.

I doubt 9.17's 1 second buff on her Q is gonna change much.

Nanuk Pihoqahiak1 votes

She's super strange. If you ever solo lane her, she actually wrecks with Titanic / Trinity / Sho'jin, despite being balanced around being a support / ap.

PhearBunny1 votes

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She's super strange. If you ever solo lane her, she actually wrecks with Titanic / Trinity / Sho'jin, despite being balanced around being a support / ap.

In theory shes a good top laner, but top laners tend to outlane her with mobility and sustain so its kinda risky. Shes just safer in the jungle because she doesnt have to compete with something like Renektons sustain forcing her out of lane over and over again. Im not opposed to picking her top, as long as youre picking her as a counter to something specific. But if you arent positive youre counterpicking someone, its really high risk to play her top.

JuiceBoxP1 votes

Yeah, it's pretty crystal clear that she is destroys people in solo lanes with her <0.1 pickrate in every lane and sub 45% winrate.

The games she won she pretty much got her ass carried.

PhearBunny1 votes

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Yeah, it's pretty crystal clear that she is destroys people in solo lanes with her <0.1 pickrate in every lane and sub 45% winrate.

The games she won she pretty much got her ass carried.

prior to these buffs, yeah she was like a 45% winrate risk in the jungle. Viable if you know what youre doing and experienced with it, but risky if youre opponents are playing godtier or A+tier champs AND are experienced on those champs, you would feel it. But POST Q CD buff, shes a freaking monster.

JuiceBoxP1 votes

43% winrate over 80 games in platinum+ in 9.17

monster. autowin. broken. freelo.

PhearBunny1 votes

think about it. Warrior 60AD. AA>Q>AA = 60x3 in 1second. Q on a 4second CD with blue+Warrior CDR. so in 2 seconds after you stun them youre gonna AA>Q>AA them again for 60x3.

PhearBunny1 votes

1 second buff+45%CDR(Which is easy to hit) gives the enemy 1second of downtime from being Q stunned(Unless they have tenacity).

Its a huge deal. They buffed her in the wrong place.

She needed Zenith Blade buffs for her reliability. Not this Q buff that transforms her into a perma Q stun Fighter thing.

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