@Meddler Any plans to make Zilean playable again?

Karcist·5/2/2015, 9:10:05 PM·8 votes·647 views

Its been over a month now. The issue isn't that people "haven't gotten used to his skill curve". The issue is that he is so awful that it's mind blowing, and absurdly unfun to play at the same time. There was nothing good about this rework at all and nobody is convinced that there is.

9 Comments

qetzel5/2/2015, 9:50:57 PM4 votes

I disagree. The rework had some good points - The new bombs.

The rework does have its fair share of mistakes though. While it is good that the double bomb is less reliable, it is currently too unreliable. He also needs a new passive. I don't think he has any other problems really. At least no more than any other champion. It is just that these are so important that they are warping the perception of the rest of his kit.

While he still needs more work, the rework wasn't a complete failure.

Neurokinetics5/2/2015, 9:20:28 PM3 votes

Its as if Riot wants the game to get less fun over time with reworks like Zilean's.

Fried Noob5/2/2015, 9:54:15 PM2 votes

I personally think the new Zilean is more fun to play as and against. I do agree his bomb need some small changes to be more reliable, but overall I greatly enjoy new Zilean.

magic pole5/3/2015, 3:37:35 PM2 votes

His Q now functions like Xerath's R. imo both are up there as some of the most difficult skill shots to land.

Xerath's R being tricky to land is ok because of its absurd range.

Zilean Q definitely needs to be more reliable/easier to land as it is his only source of damage. I see why it was changed from being a targeted-very-little-counter-play spell to a skillshot, but the Lob time is a bit too long, and like Xerath R, it becomes too telegraphed, resulting in it being easily juked. It's also frustrating that although his Q is now ridiculously unreliable, it was changed into a skillshot AND its damage was nerfed significantly: [90/145/200/260/320 (0.9 ability power) magic damage ⇒ 75/115/165/230/300 (0.8 ability power) magic damage]

I use to love playing Zilean. had to retire him after this rework...not mad that it's harder, but it's simply not fun to play my beloved Zilean

Sukishoo5/2/2015, 9:52:11 PM1 votes

I like the rework and think it works pretty nicely. Please stop putting words into peoples mouths, just cause you don't like it doesn't mean others don't. QQ harder, these threads will never get you anything.

The Red Warden5/3/2015, 12:19:11 AM1 votes

I just want him to have an actual passive, since his current one could be removed and no would be able to tell the difference.