Is it just me or is Rammus completely out-classed this season?

Mister Modesty··5 votes·885 views

I was playing some ARAMmus the other day and noticed how low his Armor was. Despite being lvl 14 with Thornmail and Deadman's Plate, I only had about 400 Armor. His W increases his Armor and MR while active, but he seems to be slipping into the role of Assassin. I've been altering my gameplay into a hit-and-run technique rather than tank and grind. When I tank Rammus I initiate with Q, throw up W and Taunt. But now I find myself initiating with W, throwing the taunt and peeling- keeping my Q for an escape.

When you pit Rammus against any other tank, he just seems like turtle soup. (Why I named my Smurf "Eat Rammus Soup")

Rammus is meant to punish those who attack him, but when an Ashe can win a 1v1 there's a problem. I remember a couple seasons ago playing as Rammus and a fool-hearty Jinx tried dropping some DPS AA on me while I was fighting Udyr. The Jinx melted her face off and I got the kill by simply ignoring her. Not this season, pal.

Can we do something about this?

Maybe Rammus should passively gain Armor and MR by levelling his W. Note- Rammus' abilities have no passive effects as it is. Or just buff his base Armor and Armor scaling?

All I know is Rammus is seeming weak this season.

18 Comments

God Raijin3 votes

Well TBH armor is just really weak this season in comparison to what it was before. I mean, any armor you build you are only getting 55% of it thanks toitem 3036 also all it takes is one person with item 3071 to hit you and every single AD on their team will deal more damage to you. Also items like item 3139 got life steal this season so its pretty hard to even really do any meaningful damage from them attacking you. So put all of these things together and Rammus is just flat out worse this season

Brimaz The King2 votes

I ONLY had 400 armor lol.

Mister Modesty1 votes

That's not a lot. I've had that with champions who don't rely as much on armor.

MunchCrunchLunch2 votes

my full tank fed rammus. got kicked by lee sin. because the lulu zhonyad. so lee sin kicked rammus into their team.

rammus died in less than 2 seconds. i kid you not. and he was fed as hell. full tank.

Mister Modesty2 votes

He's so weak right now. It's very sad.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

every full tank is except malphite

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

You probably die from their AP mid. Ashe can't touch 400 armor Rammus.

Mister Modesty1 votes

When I first bought Rammus in S4, I could solo any 3 ADC champs without a problem. Now, a lowly Jinx can almost kill me before she drops dead. And Rammus should be Jinx's hardest counter given her weaker AD and high AS.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

any adc will destroy rammus after they get BT.

Mister Modesty1 votes

Do you mean Black Cleaver?

Radnar the bold1 votes

Okay

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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I remember a couple seasons ago playing as Rammus and a fool-hearty Jinx tried dropping some DPS AA on me while I was fighting Udyr. The Jinx melted her face off and I got the kill by simply ignoring her. Not this season, pal.

God forbid you not be able to kill the enemy ADC because she had the audacity to try to DPS you (also known as: her job).

Tank players are so fucking delusional lol. You literally just complained that you could no longer duel Udyr and kill a Jinx by doing nothing to her. As if that is what should be what happens.

Oh, and by the way, Rammus is ok right now, he can still kill most ADCs solo, and if you're finding him very weak it is your play that is weak.

Dominick Destine3 votes

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God forbid you not be able to kill the enemy ADC because she had the audacity to try to DPS you (also known as: her job).

If the softest ADC can kill the most tanky tank in the game, who has multiple forms of damage return on him at the time, that is wrong and must be changed.

Mister Modesty1 votes

Let's do some math real quick. Let's say with Jinx's AD and Rammus' Armor Jinx deals a flat 30 damage per hit. (After Damage Reduction) Let's say Rammus has 350 Armor, his W is maxed, and he has Thornmail. Let's say Jinx gets 2 hits per second.

Every second, Rammus will take 60 damage, and redirect 196.5 damage.

Let's say Jinx buys item 3036 and item 3071 Rammus has no answer to this. There are no items that protect against the stat loss, or give any buffs to Armor/Tanking. Except Thornmail.. which is countered by so many AD scaling items it's just for decoration.

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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Let's do some math real quick. Let's say with Jinx's AD and Rammus' Armor Jinx deals a flat 30 damage per hit. (After Damage Reduction) Let's say Rammus has 350 Armor, his W is maxed, and he has Thornmail. Let's say Jinx gets 2 hits per second.

Every second, Rammus will take 60 damage, and redirect 196.5 damage.

Let's say Jinx buys item 3036 and item 3071 Rammus has no answer to this. There are no items that protect against the stat loss, or give any buffs to Armor/Tanking. Except Thornmail.. which is countered by so many AD scaling items it's just for decoration.

Have you considered trying to attack the Jinx, instead of stupidly thinking you should be able to kill them by pressing W, buying thornmail, and existing? Because I can assure you, a Rammus that Q's the Jinx, presses W, Es her, and uses his ult while auto attacking her with his big boy AD (for a tank anyway, he will have about 200 AD at full build, 230 if W is active) from his passive, he will kill her.

Sorry friend, but if you're having trouble with a lone ADC as Rammus and the ADC isn't Vayne you're playing him wrong or badly.

Mister Modesty1 votes

Attack her? Why didn't I think of that!?

fukking idiots

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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Attack her? Why didn't I think of that!?

fukking idiots

You barely think at all friend, so it's no surprise you didn't.

After all, you literally think you should be able to kill Jinx by doing nothing while fighting another champion. You're so delusional it's hilarious.

I'm sorry you can't kill ADCs by passively existing anymore.

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