"We have the late game"

ivnkoxhcuc··1 votes·1,294 views

No, you don't.

> 20 mins in > All outer turrets gone > 3/5ths of enemy team fed > "We got late game" > We're losing 5v5s > Enemy team so fed > My team so behind > Can't catch up > Keep trying to FF > Team talking about late game > We lose at 35 mins

Please note that if we're extremely far behind, it's better to FF. That's 15 mins that's wasted because you think we can catch up because we have "Late game" yet none of their towers are gone, and we have 3 missing. K.

15 Comments

Dedrius4 votes

Actually if you have waveclear and a strong lategame you should never surrender, just try to stall and outscale.

ivnkoxhcuc1 votes

There was no late game to turn to because the enemy team was grouping and killing off the people that kept trying to clear lane by themselves or what have you

Dedrius1 votes

You should be grouping under towers and clearing waves and until you find an opportunity to come back in the game and make a play.

ivnkoxhcuc1 votes

If only my team did that, lol

Dedrius1 votes

Well it is up to you to be a shotcaller and hope that they listen. If they don't then it will be difficult to come back.

OhBabyImCulling2 votes

I disagree. You are only silver 5. Trash. You know nothing of our late game prowess

ivnkoxhcuc1 votes

I will never support you again. I'm going into the JG. "Honey boo boo"

aaronautumn2 votes

I've come back from much worse games than that. If your team can cooperate and hold back their pushing then you do have a chance.

ivnkoxhcuc1 votes

But if they can't and the team is grouping, and everyone is doing their own thing except 3 people? Yeah. please stop.

kcStranger2 votes

Yeah, that's a problem, and there's only so much you can do in-game to get people on the same page. I find that being very, very positive will always maximize your chances of success, but at the same time if people can't cooperate I think surrendering is fine.

kcStranger1 votes

Based on your description, you're losing that game most of the time, but it's amazing the comebacks you can pull off if people on the team stay positive and try their best. (Just watch Unicorns of Love in the LCS...) Usually, I wait for one of the following conditions before forfeiting:

  1. Extremely clear lead for the other team, generally at least one inhibitor down with no ability to press outside the base
  2. Clear lead for the other team, and my team is very negative in the chat or clearly wants to give up (since a team that turns on itself or tunes out of the game generally can't come back; losing becomes something of a self-fulfilling prophecy)
  3. A lead for the other team, and my team has a prolonged AFK

That said, I agree that the life value of using that 15 minutes for something else is worth more than the 0.5% chance you have of winning some games (though not everyone does). I just try to be conservative about when I'm actually in that situation.

Only Play Darius1 votes

Vladimir MasterYi Lux Twitch Leona

You probably do.

iNabs1 votes

Actually its hard to catch up even if your team have LATE GAME CHAMPION.. Let say your opponent already fed. They can just turret dive you and they wont die easily from turret. You get killed in 2-3 Hits, Sometimes 1 shotted if your level is low and the opponent is 3-4 gap level already.. And the enemy team is just pushing all the wave.. Pretty much there is no such a thing as "WE HAVE LATE GAME".. Because the level became too big and 0 Dragon..0 Baron. pretty much that the game.

ivnkoxhcuc1 votes

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Actually its hard to catch up even if your team have LATE GAME CHAMPION.. Let say your opponent already fed. They can just turret dive you and they wont die easily from turret. You get killed in 2-3 Hits, Sometimes 1 shotted if your level is low and the opponent is 3-4 gap level already.. And the enemy team is just pushing all the wave.. Pretty much there is no such a thing as "WE HAVE LATE GAME".. Because the level became too big and 0 Dragon..0 Baron. pretty much that the game.

This. This 100x this.

Baquinn1 votes

I would never surrender. It's unrealistic to think you're going to win EVERY single match you play so just try and have fun losing and you may come back to win. Idk my take on it.

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