Dear ADC mains,

ivnkoxhcuc·Jun 8, 2015·9 votes·2,933 views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8N5yTdGhIU

Stop being an egotistical ass
You didn't solo for your kills
There's a SUPPORT there, they're the reason you get kills
Stop disrespecting your support, because I don't know about other support mains, but I will probably leave lane, stop warding river for you, stop CCing for you, and let me know how your egotistical self can "solo lane" because I'm "useless"
You need to lose the ego.
ADCing is not hard
You're a douche. Please report me for calling you a fucking tool for bitching at ME the entire game because you died once to your reckless stupid ass when I went back to shop to buy my sightstone because YOU can't ward with your FREE trinket. Gee fucking gee.

Sincerely, The humble support mains

P.s., ready for the downvotes for ADCs who can't hear the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqakQqxkcME

44 Comments

Rabid HuskyJun 8, 20156 votes

alright all i see is constant shit like this talking bad about adcs were not all bad!! so stop painting us to be monsters!! ffs lemme try awnsering all your points in the order of importance

bot lane is about teamwork which means if river isnt warded its both partys fault for pushing and not warding properly and abandoning your adc isnt cool especially if its outta the blue say going to help mid or brb gonna gank or something just abandoning the adc who is depending on you to help against 2 people is signs of you being worse than the adc you hate

how often does any adc go "oh ya that was all me noone else this guys useless" seriously and theres a real possibility your not working with your adc if he is calling you useless and abandoning them doesnt help take a skill shot as a mage once in awhile if hes getting focused dont save yourself try to make sure both of you get out use some of that cc for escaping with them instead of if they turn on you then its important to use that stun or heal cuz hey that other adc gets fed its fine cuz your adc sucks right in fact all adcs suck there all egomaniac asses

ya need to work together stop being a salty and dont disrespect the adc till they do it first to you its a team game and bot lane needs each other unless its the same guy that was a ass to you give them the benefit of the doubt you carry the carry so he can carry the team if that doesnt happen one of 2 things happened 1 you failed your job of keeping everyone alive and killing the enemy team 2 you just got outplayed by better people if bot lane feeds its both of your fault not just his not just yours if your workin together your adc should walk away with a double every engage or at the very least both of you walking away period

oh ya adcing is totally easy not like you gotta last hit minions work with someone who constantly can steal a kill then say your bad then theres also the pressure of being focused in fights and being killed easily makeing team fights 4 v 5 and be a main damage dealer for your team

last but not least dont be a ass to the adc something like this post proves your not doing your part as a support your not trying to help the carry at all your bitching and assuming every adc is a ass every adc is a egomaniac draven just cuz some bad games or you watch way to much sky williams bottom line improve your support game if you get a good adc one game become friends with em try being their main support instead of posting on forums about how adcs suck how you hate them how you agree with sky williams soooo hard

3TWarriorJun 8, 20151 votes

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this is the internet...there's everything somewhere unless it's nowhere. I've played janna support where the carry literally didn't attack even once when I crowd control them constantly, and a lot of them do go "janna sux, plz report..." because I take the fall when a nidalee jungle comes in and I make sure my carry survives by being the fall-guy

oh, don't you love it when no one on your team even notices that you've ulted while they're at 20% so they just run away, wasting your pitful 50 hp heal from no one being in the effect XD usually though supports are much less likely to get reported because people know they're actually looking out for them while carries can kill steal and yolo solo troll-o and complain when they die for refusing to communicate, like running into a jungle that has 3 enemies in it and teammates aren't in range to help

Rabid HuskyJun 8, 20151 votes

and ive played with supports that really do suck they rush in and yell at me cuz instead of running into a draven thresh i decided to farm and not die ive been on the receiving end of abuse as a adc by my support "omfg this jinx sucks report her wont even engage" my fav here me to a 5/1/1 nami who consistently ks me on purpose while im 0/1/6 "hey can you get me some kills?..." nami "lol git gud then noob go cry to someone who cares" or alistar who told me "varus you really suck dont adc ever again" i was 3/5 with the rest of my team being 0/6 atleast with only mid having 1 kill ive never once said omfg this support sucks no wards gg why didnt you go in when i did gah horrible support! or anything like that ever

instead of complaining about adcs try spreading the message of working together saying ty or gj or buying more wards instead of making bot lane seem like hell adcing isnt fun unless you got a good support who works with you everyone thinks supports are the poor babys the poor abused children who never get praised but what alotta people dont say is its both adc and supports fault its always the support or the adc (almost always the adc cuz supports are the perfect babys)never just them working together or not

yes i know its my own experience but adcs get just as much if not way more shit than supports since you as a adc are relying on support to help so hard if someone doesnt want to help or is just bad at supporting geuss what the adc cant do anything there just another kill waiting to happen and with luck can grab a kill from a mistake the other team made

i do admit all the adc bashing has helped me as i learned to adc buying wards thanking my support or sharing blame but now that i have plans i have strats and now that i can say i main adc it does feel super one sided ive had good supports who get me 5/1 by 10 mins in and ive had supports who ends up getting us both killed by walking into a thresh hook its a 2 way street both have good guys both have bad guys

3TWarriorJun 8, 20151 votes

lol, let's all agree to dump them in the toxic waste dump from whence they came XD

Rabid HuskyJun 8, 20151 votes

agreed lol

LaserDeathBladeJun 8, 20155 votes

Lmao you know this whole bot lane 'respect' thing goes both ways

And honestly most of the time when bot's feeding, it's because the support is sucking ass.

Irelia BotJun 8, 20152 votes

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Lmao you know this whole bot lane 'respect' thing goes both ways

And honestly most of the time when bot's feeding, it's because the support is sucking ass.

Or the marksmen thinks they are doublelift locked in vayne and then gets angry when a janna can't save them when they went back in with 25% health vs an enemy at 50% health. Seen this all to often.

XinotineJun 8, 20152 votes

Happens both ways, many times when I play Vayne support needs to try lvl 4 engage agaisnt Graves-Leona.

ivnkoxhcucJun 8, 20152 votes

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Lmao you know this whole bot lane 'respect' thing goes both ways

And honestly most of the time when bot's feeding, it's because the support is sucking ass.

I generally don't say shit to my ADC, but when they start bitching because they're being reckless douche, and I can't save them, that's when I start getting irritable with them. Like, bro, I can't save you from a Vayne, Mundo, Rengar, and the iceberg that hit the titanic.

NemeBroJun 8, 20154 votes

For someone so humble you sure do bitch a lot and put all the blame for everything on the ADC.

DisasterSolaJun 8, 20151 votes

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For someone so humble you sure do bitch a lot and put all the blame for everything on the ADC.

I was just in a game with a toxic Ahri and a sivir. Sivir+MF vs Vayne+leona

Leona is dependant on skillshots. Sivir walks into leonas root and gets blown up by vayne. I try and save her with make it rain and damage. Sivir dies. Vayne repeatedly gets a double.

One gank from jungle shaco the entire game.

Shaco, Ahri, and sivir blame me for feeding by saying "who the fk picks mf support". Sivir got hit by 8 out of leonas 10 roots and i died because i kept trying to save her... And rushing AD because they were flaming me that i wasnt, when if i had gotten cooldown i would have easily saved sivir from vayne most of the time...

I think im going to just go karthus from now on. To many people are toxic in ranked when you use champions you have fun with.

NemeBroJun 8, 20151 votes

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I was just in a game with a toxic Ahri and a sivir. Sivir+MF vs Vayne+leona

Leona is dependant on skillshots. Sivir walks into leonas root and gets blown up by vayne. I try and save her with make it rain and damage. Sivir dies. Vayne repeatedly gets a double.

One gank from jungle shaco the entire game.

Shaco, Ahri, and sivir blame me for feeding by saying "who the fk picks mf support". Sivir got hit by 8 out of leonas 10 roots and i died because i kept trying to save her... And rushing AD because they were flaming me that i wasnt, when if i had gotten cooldown i would have easily saved sivir from vayne most of the time...

I think im going to just go karthus from now on. To many people are toxic in ranked when you use champions you have fun with.

Maybe you could have saved her if you had actually picked an actual support who can actually peel, lol.

Alistar for example.

DisasterSolaJun 8, 20151 votes

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Maybe you could have saved her if you had actually picked an actual support who can actually peel, lol.

for example.

Excuse me for playing someone i enjoy. And alistar is shit. Hes only useful as an off tank and hes in almost every pro game because he just soaks up damage.

Also, i dont enjoyo playing alistar. I find him annoying to play with since he only has either critical success or critical fail on his plays. If he had something like ETCs dash, he would be infinitely more fun to play with.

NemeBroJun 8, 20151 votes

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Excuse me for playing someone i enjoy. And alistar is shit. Hes only useful as an off tank and hes in almost every pro game because he just soaks up damage.

Also, i dont enjoyo playing alistar. I find him annoying to play with since he only has either critical success or critical fail on his plays. If he had something like ETCs dash, he would be infinitely more fun to play with.

Play MF support in normals all you want. By all means. I've occasionally used silly shit like Garen support. But in ranked? Yeah, if someone just locks in who they want to play without any regard for how effective it is, then people can be justified in their anger. Now I'm not saying they should insult you. I wouldn't insult you or be toxic. But I would not hesitate to point out that your champion provides no peel and very little utility, so that when she is essentially useless at what a support is intended to do, it is your fault.

Alistar can peel and hard initiate, as well as heal his ADC (both with his relic shield and his E). His ult also makes him more useful for doing things like diving and setting up his ADC for kills. And yes, he can definitely tank. MF is bad at all of these things. As a support, all she offers over Alistar is better poke and damage. But even then, she's vastly outstripped by a champion like Vel'koz, Karma, or Sona. Nami is another great support, as is Janna.

What exactly does MF offer as a support? Very little. Because she's a bad support.

Hey man, if you don't enjoy Alistar then by all means, don't play Alistar. Play someone who can actually support though. Because MF can't. And while you shouldn't have to deal with people flaming you over your choice, if you do choose to play a champion ill-suited for the lane you can't just expect people not to criticize your choice.

ShonjlJun 8, 20151 votes

Your problem is you picked an ADC as sup, that is on you bro. Doesnt matter MF has a meh slow, she isnt sup. To be fair you deserved to get raged at for that.

DisasterSolaJun 8, 20151 votes

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Your problem is you picked an ADC as sup, that is on you bro. Doesnt matter MF has a meh slow, she isnt sup. To be fair you deserved to get raged at for that.

65% AoE slow that stops followup and/or initiation. Getting a raylais increases that to 80%.

After that, you build a maw, cooldown boots, and tank or AD depending on the needs of the team and the targeting preference of the enemy team. MF support relies on her reliable zoning and tangable slow to succeed in the support role. If you build AD, then you act as cleanup as a damage support. Its like leesin support, but without the inane utility and stupid mobility. Its very fun, for me. Its also viable when paired with carries who benefit more from soft initiation, in the form of slows and zoning, than hard initiations with short lived hard CC. I find it as fun as karthus support, and pre-rework ashe support.

Just because something wasnt designed for a role, doesnt mean it cant succeed there. Nidalee and leesin are living, un-nerfable proof.

NemeBroJun 8, 20151 votes

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65% AoE slow that stops followup and/or initiation. Getting a raylais increases that to 80%.

After that, you build a maw, cooldown boots, and tank or AD depending on the needs of the team and the targeting preference of the enemy team. MF support relies on her reliable zoning and tangable slow to succeed in the support role. If you build AD, then you act as cleanup as a damage support. Its like leesin support, but without the inane utility and stupid mobility. Its very fun, for me. Its also viable when paired with carries who benefit more from soft initiation, in the form of slows and zoning, than hard initiations with short lived hard CC. I find it as fun as karthus support, and pre-rework ashe support.

Just because something wasnt designed for a role, doesnt mean it cant succeed there. Nidalee and leesin are living, un-nerfable proof.

Nidalee is also kind of a crappy support, though she's probably better than MF.

Know who also builds Rylais and is a much better support than MF? Vel'koz.

I've seen people successfully support with Mordekaiser. That doesn't make him a good support.

By all means, use your bad ADC support in ranked games, but if your ADC gets engaged on and you can't save them then guess what? It's your fault they died, and your team is justified in their anger towards you.

ShonjlJun 9, 20151 votes

Ermm...Nidalee has a heal and a very potent one at that, as well as a trap which acts as a ward and reveals a target and can be used to zone people. While yes she isn't really support, she has the abilities to at least half decently do it.

Lee sin has a shield which isn't that bad and has sustain as well as a slow, he also has an ult that he can choose where you are going, and can be tanky as fk as well as dash at people......He again isn't someone I would classify as support since he can use his abilities elsewhere vastly better but he is capable of doing it.

MF ALL you have is a slow.....that's it. Sure its something but thats it, you aren't tanky, a slow isn't stopping someone from killing you or your adc and if you take the kill from doing damage the adc gets pissed at you. Sorry but I still stand by what I said, you picked something that downright cannot support and was wondering why people got pissed at you. By your logic Teemo can support since he has a blind and his mushrooms slow, doesn't mean he should or would be desired.

By all means play what you want in NORMALS and even then people would yell at you, but if you pick someone that is extremely odd in Ranked, you really got no right to complain when people yell at you. If you picked MF when I was ADC, I would either demand you switch or dodge the game, I would rather get a penalty than join a troll game. The game isn't only about your fun, its about the other 4 people too and you having fun at the expense of the other 4 is a quick way for you to get banned. The game isn't all about you.

DisasterSolaJun 9, 20151 votes

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Ermm...Nidalee has a heal and a very potent one at that, as well as a trap which acts as a ward and reveals a target and can be used to zone people. While yes she isn't really support, she has the abilities to at least half decently do it.

Lee sin has a shield which isn't that bad and has sustain as well as a slow, he also has an ult that he can choose where you are going, and can be tanky as fk as well as dash at people......He again isn't someone I would classify as support since he can use his abilities elsewhere vastly better but he is capable of doing it.

MF ALL you have is a slow.....that's it. Sure its something but thats it, you aren't tanky, a slow isn't stopping someone from killing you or your adc and if you take the kill from doing damage the adc gets pissed at you. Sorry but I still stand by what I said, you picked something that downright cannot support and was wondering why people got pissed at you. By your logic Teemo can support since he has a blind and his mushrooms slow, doesn't mean he should or would be desired.

By all means play what you want in NORMALS and even then people would yell at you, but if you pick someone that is extremely odd in Ranked, you really got no right to complain when people yell at you. If you picked MF when I was ADC, I would either demand you switch or dodge the game, I would rather get a penalty than join a troll game. The game isn't only about your fun, its about the other 4 people too and you having fun at the expense of the other 4 is a quick way for you to get banned. The game isn't all about you.

Thing about that game is we had two instalocks and 0 communication from the sivir, who was first pick. If i had been asked to play a specific support, even if i dont like or use them, i would have. But. I enjoy playing MF support. i enjoy playing Karthus support. I enjoy playing nautilus support. And i was fairly certain that sivir would benefit from the tangable slow i provided more so than an instance of hard CC. The same reasoning applies to karthus, actually.

ivnkoxhcucJun 8, 20154 votes

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For someone so humble you sure do bitch a lot and put all the blame for everything on the ADC.

Let me know how humble you become when EVERY ADC treats you like shit.

NemeBroJun 8, 20153 votes

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Let me know how humble you become when EVERY ADC treats you like shit.

I've been treated like shit in-game. We all have. It happens.

XinotineJun 8, 20152 votes

What about when support flames me for every mistake... Being morgana who started with Dorans Ring and taking CS?

3TWarriorJun 8, 20152 votes

oh, y ep, love that XD how about when the tanks without face of the mountain deny creeps from the carry

seems pretty popular in hexakill atm, yet the teams that work together usually win

ShonjlJun 8, 20151 votes

Ever consider you are the reason?

Before you rage, only 2 constants are here, ADC and YOU. To say all ADCs are aholes makes you foolish and a moron. Every role has people that are aholes, I have seen all too well nasty sups or tops which don't even do much usually. Only other option is you. Maybe you didn't ward or went in when they weren't ready and died or caused them to die. That is all it takes and even if they rage at you, while I don't approve of it, you were the reason they are :L

ivnkoxhcucJun 8, 20151 votes

As I stated earlier, I don't say shit to my ADC until they bitch at me. I'm the support that feeds the SHIT out of my ADC. (My win rates with my support champs can prove otherwise) but getting an Ashe who has 50 CS 10 mins in? No saving your ass. And I tell my ADC in the beginning of every game, "Ping target the champ you want to go in on, and we'll focus." So I know THEY'RE ready to engage.

ofartJun 8, 20154 votes

You just generalize ADCs as if they're all self-entitled pricks. Since ADCs have a support, I'm pretty sure they realize they aren't going 1v5.

Also, ADC is actually hard tbh if played to a high level. The concept of it is easy but execution is probably the hardest of any role other than some mid picks like Azir.

ABcMasTeRJan 10, 20161 votes

not true jungle is honostly harder than adc.

XinotineJun 8, 20154 votes

By generalizing whole bunch of people as toxic I think you make yourself look very naive.

I say gj to my support. I apologize if I kill steal another person by accident.
I apologize if I die and that Leblanc or Zed gets fed. Today I had game as Ashe where I sacrificed myself twice to slow down chasing enemies to let my teammates including support to escape. And apperly I'm toxic because I'm ADC main. Thanks for feedback.

Rabid HuskyJun 8, 20152 votes

dude im the same way

3TWarriorJun 8, 20154 votes

for the fun of it, No role is hard except for jungle...it requires so much map awareness and positioning and quick decision making and is limited to a select pool of champs (unless you get a leash or something)

SS EnforcerJun 8, 20153 votes

The humble support mains

Lol, fuck you.

ofartJun 8, 20153 votes

I've seen many supports harass ADCs after they initiate really bad engages only to get punished (Leo syndrome). There are all kind of people for every role.

YossarianSenseiJun 8, 20153 votes

If my ADC bitches I just go support mid lane. It's honestly a better position for support anyway, going bot is just conforming to meta.

That being said, I get only get bitched at in less than 10% of the games I support in, and I'm one of those 'only play support if it's the literal only spot open' players. If you're experiencing a lot of BM from your ADC, maybe it's because you suck.

ivnkoxhcucJun 8, 20151 votes

^^^^ This.

Except the "Only support if it's the last spot open", I support main, and when I get a humble ADC, it's worth it, but too many times I get an ADC who wants me to be Jesus and just carry the game for them while they do nothing.

(I've actually had games where I got the enemy ADC to 50 health, and my ADC was running away back to tower (We were in the middle of the lane) and then when the enemy team started retrerating, did the ADC come and take the kill, and then we were able to knock a double by getting the support (CCs and tankiness for the win)

But in the above situation, where I got an ADC to 100% to 1% health, and the ADC gets the kill, no thanks or ANYTHING was given.

Byakuya KuchikiJun 8, 20151 votes

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^^^^ This.

Except the "Only support if it's the last spot open", I support main, and when I get a humble ADC, it's worth it, but too many times I get an ADC who wants me to be Jesus and just carry the game for them while they do nothing.

(I've actually had games where I got the enemy ADC to 50 health, and my ADC was running away back to tower (We were in the middle of the lane) and then when the enemy team started retrerating, did the ADC come and take the kill, and then we were able to knock a double by getting the support (CCs and tankiness for the win)

But in the above situation, where I got an ADC to 100% to 1% health, and the ADC gets the kill, no thanks or ANYTHING was given.

"i need thanks for doing what im supposed to do" also sorry but im not gonna thank you and possible get killed by someone from the fog of war or fuck up my CSing

NuSix3Jun 8, 20152 votes

Problem is I think you have to be an egotistical ass to be a good adc. The ones who aren't are in bronze with me.

Junsui AoiJun 8, 20152 votes

I've actually left my ADC to go top lane when they insult me. Legit. They either insult me more or shut up so I can come back. :)

ShonjlJun 8, 20152 votes

While I agree with what you are saying, you bitching makes you no different than the ADC you are complaining about. IF you leave lane then the entire team will usually bitch at you since top and mid dont want a sup that just sits there to take their xp, and letting the adc regardless of the reason get behind will often cause you to lose due to no damage. I dont give a rats ass if an ADC is Hitler in the flesh, I will mute them but still support them if it means they can murder people.

And your last point isn't the truth, it is you raging which again makes your post kinda worthless since while I feel for supports, you gain no sympathy acting like a douche. This is coming from someone that mains top and jng btw.

TrídentJun 8, 20152 votes

Stop stereotyping adcs, not all of them are as you say. I agree with most supports speaking out against toxic adcs and such, but this is the wrong way to do so.

KazaLyn ShaoJun 8, 20151 votes

Eh, go away.

stealthfox94Jun 8, 20151 votes

Oh look another thread hating on every ADC main.

Byakuya KuchikiJun 8, 20151 votes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8N5yTdGhIU

Stop being an egotistical ass most arent

You didn't solo for your kills never said i did

There's a SUPPORT there, they're the reason you get kills yea none of my positioning correct targeting or kiting helped at all

Stop disrespecting your support, because I don't know about other support mains, but I will probably leave lane, stop warding river for you, stop CCing for you, and let me know how your egotistical self can "solo lane" because I'm "useless" when you gin in when were half health then feed a free kill and blame me you are being useless and also youre lowering your chances to win because someone has an attitude?

You need to lose the ego. what ego*

ADCing is not hard says the person who has is 0-4 in ranked on ADCs who also barely plays it

You're a douche. Please report me for calling you a fucking tool for bitching at ME the entire game because you died once to your reckless stupid ass when I went back to shop to buy my sightstone because YOU can't ward with your FREE trinket. Gee fucking gee. um i do ward it has a 2 minute cooldown though Sincerely, The humble support mains "humble" P.s., ready for the downvotes for ADCs who can't hear the truth. i downvoted because your post is completely biased https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqakQqxkcME sky is a great youtuber stop destroying him because you cant deal with being called out on mistakes

Byakuya KuchikiJun 8, 20151 votes

this is what makes me hate loving ADC Im not gonna let you not ward engage peel or sustain me then get away with it im calling your ass out on it stop crying because you cant get told what youre doing wrong

ABcMasTeRJan 10, 20161 votes

First of all its the adc mains out there's fault for why things pretty much get nerfed. They complain about tanks doing too much damage to them when adc's are squishy. When an adc main does poorly in a match and complain about this being too op they tell riot and many adc mains tell riot= fighter/tanks nerfed.