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Calabok3 votes

so? 5 v 1?

Kaisa is Hot5 votes

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so? 5 v 1?

No that fact that my 4th auto did half of his health bar. Implying that Jhin's damage is broken.

Astôlfo1 votes

Uh, yeah, except. It was a 4/5 versus 1. Multiple people on said 4/5 had anti-tank/anti-sustain items which specifically hard counters Trundle. And Jhin fourth shotted him at like 30% health when his fourth shot is guaranteed crit that scales off missing health. So no, not really.

LordGeovanni1 votes

that 4th shot killed trundle at 48% of his max hp and he was draining shens stats when it happened hp and defensive stats

Astôlfo1 votes

Uh yeah except Jhin's 22/6/14 and has full build + anti-tank and anti-sustain items? % missing health means HP drain is irrelevant. Defensive stats mean nothing when Jhin has tank shredder items + anti-sustain.

LordGeovanni1 votes

1 item for 40penetration item trumps trundles natural defenses his defensive items, healing 20% of shens max hp and having over 20% of shens defensive stats

Astôlfo1 votes

Because said tank shred items are too strong?

LordGeovanni1 votes

it as 45-48% and trundle was draining shens stats

Miraweave1 votes

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No that fact that my 4th auto did half of his health bar. Implying that Jhin's damage is broken.

Jhin's damage is broken lol, idk why people are defending him.

He's a fine design, but his numbers are completely absurd right now. Like his ult 100-0's people lategame and he autos squishies for their entire life bar.

RogueWill2 votes

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so? 5 v 1?

Even at a 5v1 he should be able to last more than 0.5 sec.... yet everyone says tank meta

Void Nargacuga2 votes

They had item 3142 item 3147 & item 3036 for armor penetration, along with item 3072 item 3139 for more AD and lifesteal.

Trundle only had item 3742 and a item 1031 as his armor items, with item 3065 as his only MR item. He also had item 3748 item 3153 and item 3006 for his build. He was essentially royally screwed against that Jhin build.

RogueWill1 votes

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They had item 3142 item 3147 & item 3036 for armor penetration, along with item 3072 item 3139 for more AD and lifesteal.

Trundle only had item 3742 and a item 1031 as his armor items, with item 3065 as his only MR item. He also had item 3748 item 3153 and item 3006 for his build. He was essentially royally screwed against that Jhin build.

That's still a 90 bonus Armor so it shoudl be close to 180 armor combined with Trundle base armor and at least 3k HP, probably 3.5K since Titanic, deadman and spirit visage gives HP. I can't tell from the gif if he get to ult Shen or not (I really hope he didn't otherwise it wouldn't be ok at all). And if you notice one AA from jhin took almost half his HP.... you can tell whatever you want but with an offtank build you shoudl be able to live more than 0.5 sec and that's pretty much the reason why everything is such a knife figth at the moment.

Edit: I paused and enhanced the gif... Trundle din't ult Shen (thanks god) and Jhin AA hit for 1200 damage, meaning that any squishy would get 1-shot. It was his 4th shot thou so I'm kinda on between right now

Void Nargacuga1 votes

Its hard to tell whats going on at all in that gif due to how quickly he gets focus fired by Jhin Karma Velkoz & Shen . That Trundle tried to 4v1 and it obviously didn't work out, that much I can tell.

Rivuo1 votes

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That's still a 90 bonus Armor so it shoudl be close to 180 armor combined with Trundle base armor and at least 3k HP, probably 3.5K since Titanic, deadman and spirit visage gives HP. I can't tell from the gif if he get to ult Shen or not (I really hope he didn't otherwise it wouldn't be ok at all). And if you notice one AA from jhin took almost half his HP.... you can tell whatever you want but with an offtank build you shoudl be able to live more than 0.5 sec and that's pretty much the reason why everything is such a knife figth at the moment.

Edit: I paused and enhanced the gif... Trundle din't ult Shen (thanks god) and Jhin AA hit for 1200 damage, meaning that any squishy would get 1-shot. It was his 4th shot thou so I'm kinda on between right now

Huh? I think you got your math messed up

Dead mans + chain vest = bonus armor

Lord dom would take 45% of it so that would leave exactly 49.5 bonus armor left. Ghost blade + Duskblade = 30 armor pen so trundle is now at 19.5 armor.

Thats close to true damage especially when jhins 4 bullet does % missing health. Lol

Jhin is naturally busted imo

Astôlfo1 votes

Uh, the reason Jhin's AA did that is because it's his fourth shot which is a guaranteed crit, he had massive armorpen/anti-sustain against Trundle, and it scales off missing health. Trundle had like 30% health.

Astôlfo1 votes

So like, what's the point of this thread?

LadyRenly1 votes

Jhin kinda has to, otherwise Trundle would butt fk Jhin with his pillar and smash his face in in the time it takes Jhin to reload

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