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Neosphoros··1 votes·1,866 views

Thats right. RIOT is a band of biased, harassing and envious manipulators which theirs harassment, bullying and lack of tolerance is hidden under perverted form of carrying about players.

It is not players who destroying this community - this is a RIOT who manipulating us by provoking to negative attitude by creating games with players that not fit to themselves.

I have create many threads about broken RIOT - LOL system...

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/player/eune/Neosphoros?content_type=discussion

... now - RIOT are abusing me by creating games without chances to win and by trolling me - only becouse I'm pointing out problems with system.

In last season I had 51% winratio on my sup role:

https://i.ibb.co/tm3pTWP/Zrzut-ekranu-2018-11-10-16-32-54.png

...look at my games - now

https://i.ibb.co/0YJJHxN/Zrzut-ekranu-2019-01-27-19-39-42.png

Now, I can officially say that I am not going to play ranked games anymore. RIOTs system manipulating every game to achieve specified by system result, which may nothing to do with our expierience and skills. By such games

it can clearly be stated that the system of their creation is broken and RIOT manipulating our games.

36 Comments

Midg3t8 votes

You're playing adc's as a supp, and some of them as an AP (Like sivir, which doesnt make any sense) and you expect to win games?

......WHAT?

Neosphoros1 votes

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You're playing adc's as a supp, and some of them as an AP (Like sivir, which doesnt make any sense) and you expect to win games?

......WHAT?

With all of those champions in previous season I have had winratio > 50% with A or S score as a sup

Kai Guy1 votes
Neosphoros1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=R4fA8YAE,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-01-27T20:37:43.415+0000)

Not in ranked my good fellow. http://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=Neosphoros

Winratio is not only good gameplay indicator (becouse winratio may depend on your teammates)... good indicator is your champion evaluation by system. All champions I'm playing in rankeds are lvl 7 with A or S score.

Midg3t1 votes

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With all of those champions in previous season I have had winratio > 50% with A or S score as a sup

  1. Those grades means nothing, I have lvl 6 tristana and im a supp main and know jack shit about adc-s
  2. 50% wr is....average? Idk why r u pointing that out. I would be an issue if it was around 40%
Kai Guy3 votes

He plays for stats not to win lol.

Look at all that Cs stolen.

Neosphoros1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=R4fA8YAE,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2019-01-27T20:33:15.652+0000)

He plays for stats not to win lol.

Look at all that Cs stolen.

Stats in form of champion evaluation (S, A...) - yes. I'm doing my best.

High amount of CS does it not mean that it could be stolen... it only mean that cs is hig - nothing more... your words are speculation. I'm simply the opportunity to kill creep when my allies far away (or dead).

Kai Guy2 votes

Oh neo, you still want to try calling me out on something. Has that ever ended well for you? Fine. Heres why its not a guess. I am not speculating anything. I checked your Cs per min gains on op gg charts. Under the ETC tab on OP.GG of a match you can see CS per min graphs. I then pull you and your adcs CS per min up and low and behold I find that you are clearly shown to be taking cs at the same time your adc is also actively trying to cs. This is not a guess from me. its reflected in the data. Lets use that morg win as an example. 68 CS vs your adc 51 CS. No doubt she enjoyed having you fighting her all game for cs. Or did you just spam W mindlessly to try and pad your damage to champions stat? Either way not an idea situation for the ADC player to have their support kneecapping them in lane. [slayer-jinx-catface]

Now don't get me wrong. You should cs as a support. LH only. Use autos when your adc is not present and you are. Not only that as a support you should know how to manage waves. Do you need to reset it and push to tower, do you need to start a minion push and roam. how to delay waves outside of turret range so adc can freeze lane on return. So I don't care if your CS on support is over 0. IT should be if your playing the game right. I care if your eating CS when its better off being on your adc. Your crippling your teams mid and late game if you delay your adc power spikes to long. More so if your stat padding and use them as a meatsheild to protect your KDA. Throws off a comps balance. Results in losses.

Again, Playing for good stats IS EASY. Its also toxic for your teammates. Tell you what. I will take the time to make a Video showing how to play for stats and how it loses games.

Midg3t1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=R4fA8YAE,comment-id=0004000100000000,timestamp=2019-01-27T21:55:22.434+0000)

Oh neo, you still want to try calling me out on something. Has that ever ended well for you? Fine. Heres why its not a guess. I am not speculating anything. I checked your Cs per min gains on op gg charts. Under the ETC tab on OP.GG of a match you can see CS per min graphs. I then pull you and your adcs CS per min up and low and behold I find that you are clearly shown to be taking cs at the same time your adc is also actively trying to cs. This is not a guess from me. its reflected in the data. Lets use that morg win as an example. 68 CS vs your adc 51 CS. No doubt she enjoyed having you fighting her all game for cs. Or did you just spam W mindlessly to try and pad your damage to champions stat? Either way not an idea situation for the ADC player to have their support kneecapping them in lane. [slayer-jinx-catface]

Now don't get me wrong. You should cs as a support. LH only. Use autos when your adc is not present and you are. Not only that as a support you should know how to manage waves. Do you need to reset it and push to tower, do you need to start a minion push and roam. how to delay waves outside of turret range so adc can freeze lane on return. So I don't care if your CS on support is over 0. IT should be if your playing the game right. I care if your eating CS when its better off being on your adc. Your crippling your teams mid and late game if you delay your adc power spikes to long. More so if your stat padding and use them as a meatsheild to protect your KDA. Throws off a comps balance. Results in losses.

Again, Playing for good stats IS EASY. Its also toxic for your teammates. Tell you what. I will take the time to make a Video showing how to play for stats and how it loses games.

Jesus you bodied the guy xD

Kai Guy1 votes

Not really my intention, I just know that I have to be blunt with neo and not give him wiggle room to deflect. He can be pretty stubborn and doesn't take contrary advice or opinions that well. I just want the guy to learn and not throw other players offering to help back in their faces. Anyhow I did a stat padding game like I said I would.
https://imgur.com/a/BLzYGg4 Vs bots custom game.

Some break downs. Zilian Gold MMR. https://champion.gg/champion/Zilean/Support?&league=gold

Gold MMR average damage. 12,343 Vs mine 52,548. Gold MMR KDA 2.67-5.04-11.92 Vs mine 26-0-8. Gold Cs average 39.47 Vs mine at 133.

How in the world did we lose! I just don't understand how my stats did not protect me from this loss. clearly the bots fault. Team just did not try hard enough am I right? What a bunch of AI trolls. RITO please.

Midg3t2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=R4fA8YAE,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2019-01-27T20:33:15.652+0000)

He plays for stats not to win lol.

Look at all that Cs stolen.

I just realised lul This is similar to the guy who got 500+ reports in 1 month while doing the same shit.

Eedat6 votes

Plays AP Sivir Support. Wonders why he is losing

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

solopolo36 votes

I count 14 champions. Your builds are atrocious. Your champion picks are atrocious. You should be losing. Every game you win is out of pure luck.

Neosphoros1 votes

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I count 14 champions. Your builds are atrocious. Your champion picks are atrocious. You should be losing. Every game you win is out of pure luck.

https://i.ibb.co/tm3pTWP/Zrzut-ekranu-2018-11-10-16-32-54.png

Where is it come from my 51%, 7 lvl and A score? from atrocious picks? builds?

solopolo33 votes

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Where is it come from my 51% and A score? from atrocious picks? bilds?

You're playing ashe, sivir, heimer, karthus, and swain all as supports. You're building some lethality on-hit ashe build that doesn't work. You have full AP sivir, miss fortune and mami. Your swain build is terrible. I don't see why you're expecting to ever win. If you're gonna play support, pick support champions, and build proper items on them, not these troll builds. Then maybe you'll have better results.

Neosphoros1 votes

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You're playing ashe, sivir, heimer, karthus, and swain all as supports. You're building some lethality on-hit ashe build that doesn't work. You have full AP sivir, miss fortune and mami. Your swain build is terrible. I don't see why you're expecting to ever win. If you're gonna play support, pick support champions, and build proper items on them, not these troll builds. Then maybe you'll have better results.

If you will tank you petrol car with diesel - your car will die. Why my car is still working (lvl 7, all champions A and S system evaluation) when I'm taking "wrong" fuel (build)? Magic?

Sivir AP...

https://i.ibb.co/WP0rh1S/Zrzut-ekranu-2019-01-27-21-32-45.png

magic?... or maybe you are ignorant?

Eedat4 votes

Champion Mastery legit means nothing

Neosphoros1 votes

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Champion Mastery legit means nothing

By playing with wrong/bad build it is difficult to achieve S... and lvl 7... so maybe it means something. How good should I be by achieving S and lvl 7 by using build that is not working?

Eedat3 votes

Champ mastery means absolutely not a thing. An Iron 4 player can get mastery 7 by playing a champ enough times against other Iron 4 enemies to eventually dumb luck some S ranks. That Iron 4 Mastery 7 player still won't be half as good as a Master player first timing their champ.

Mastery means nothing because it puts zero emphasis on the skill of your enemies or the number of games it took to get. It's legit a participation award

Neosphoros1 votes

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Champ mastery means absolutely not a thing. An Iron 4 player can get mastery 7 by playing a champ enough times against other Iron 4 enemies to eventually dumb luck some S ranks. That Iron 4 Mastery 7 player still won't be half as good as a Master player first timing their champ.

Mastery means nothing because it puts zero emphasis on the skill of your enemies or the number of games it took to get. It's legit a participation award

Why people with less experience have always most to say?

Probobility achieveing lvl 7 for iron skilled player in iron division is the same as probobility of achieveing lvl 7 for gold player in gold division... so why you have only one player with lvl 7 if it is so easy?

Eedat1 votes

Depends on what metrics you use to describe experience. Quality or quantity? Someone smacking their head into a wall thousands of times is experienced in doing so, sure. But that experience doesn't really doesn't mean anything.

Neosphoros1 votes

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Depends on what metrics you use to describe experience. Quality or quantity? Someone smacking their head into a wall thousands of times is experienced in doing so, sure. But that experience doesn't really doesn't mean anything.

What metrics RIOTs system using to evaluate players efford in after-game scors? It measure quality or quantity?

Kai Guy2 votes

Neo plays for stats over trying to win. No idea if he Is intentionally stat padding with out a replay but the guy honestly seems to think stats have a direct correlation to your ability to win a match. He also has low awareness why taking your adcs income is a bad thing dam near always.

Honestly he should just play mid. Least then if he does do off meta and does it well he might see some wins for it rather cripple his ADC.

anyhow I have already tried explaining to the guy champion mastery and stats and that MMR only looks at wins and losses and the quality of teammates will only go down if your constantly losing. But he feels very strongly that the only thing holding him back is his team.

Neosphoros (EUNE) - about a month ago " I'm hardstucked in silver. Not becouse my skills, it is becouse broken system that selecting weak players to my team. "

Until neo changes his viewpoint its gonna be hard to communicate productively. I will draw some aggro when I see his posts to save folks time and energy. I am happy to help the guy improve but I cant force him to do so. If you wanna help then I recommend ya Keep the board rules in mind like me.

Leave No Player Behind Seek to offer constructive advice in a civil and friendly manner, and understand that things you find obvious about the game, the behavior system, or the Boards community may not be obvious to others. Have a little patience and try to help the player reach a better understanding. At the same time, don’t be discouraged if they aren’t receptive. Some small percentage of players won’t want to listen to your advice, no matter how politely you try to lend a hand. In these situations, simply exit the conversation gracefully.

Neosphoros1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=R4fA8YAE,comment-id=00070000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-01-27T23:22:06.630+0000)

Neo plays for stats over trying to win. No idea if he Is intentionally stat padding with out a replay but the guy honestly seems to think stats have a direct correlation to your ability to win a match. He also has low awareness why taking your adcs income is a bad thing dam near always.

Honestly he should just play mid. Least then if he does do off meta and does it well he might see some wins for it rather cripple his ADC.

If I could have bad stats - you could say that I'm playing bad and good proof for that are... my bad stats. When I have good stats... you are still saying that I'm losing games because my bad gameplay and good stats are not a proof.

...so what is the proof for good gameplay? By looking on your comments - LOL does not provide informations that players could interpret as a proper informations, so... what those informations are for? Moreover... you suggest that proof for good player gameplay can not exist at all.

Your logic is fuzzy. You denying of sense of rationalism.

...so - or you are stupid, or you doing this for a purpose and all of your comments are a form of trolling and harransment.

Kai Guy2 votes

All of your comments have a sign of trolling and harransment.

I tend to discuss things that a provably wrong. Its a shame that feel that's harassment or trolling you. When you stop saying things that are easy show as incorrect then I don't have to comment on them. You and I are both pretty stubborn.

Playing for stats has no correlation to winning games. Incase you missed it. https://imgur.com/a/BLzYGg4. As a player, You run sub-optimal builds. You defend the build with your stats. Your win rate is weak and your playstyle neglects teammates. For most players its clear youd do better running an alternative playstyle that is proven to bring more impact. IM A OFF META MAIN BRO! So please believe me when I say if you cant convert it into win% regardless of your sick stats you aint doing enough work for your team.

But what ever. Look, do your thing. run your builds. Play your own way. Your welcome to do this, just don't expect wins for it.o Your numbers clearly show you cause a frequent issue with your role for your teammates. By the numbers it shows you deprive your adc of gold for their power spikes. This hurts your team and hurting your team hurts your ability to win. You should take your item 3285 rush and Csing playstyle to mid lane. Its more conductive to wins because you don't generate a negative impact on your adc.

Constantly shoving waves is a nono. Don't do that as a support. Its basics, you hurt your adc. Constantly contesting your adc for cs is a big nono on a support don't do that, you hurt your adc. This is not something that's high MMR gameplay. Players who steal CS as support often end up at the bottom of the ladder for a reason.

A mechanic in league is wave management. Controlling the lane. You play a bunch of spammy AOE champions. Checking the stats of a match it shows that You snag cs with your adc actively csing. item 3285 rush on support. This + the high damage your arguing is a positive thing, shows your constantly using ability's. With item 3285 your going to be pushing lanes. Pointlessly Pushed lanes set up a higher risk of death to ganks and roam. Bot lane has the most gain for a gank. Netting potentially 2 kills. Its a juicy juicy target when they don't manage waves well.

If you, use a ranged ability and treat your adc as a meat shield and force waves forward thru improper ability usage. Your stats are going to get padded and look good but your teammates suffer for your playstyle.

Stats are not the be all end all. Yorick Tryndamere Sion Singed Udyr all have had a meta where they would split mindlessly, potential with awful stats but end up being the winners. Proxy singed was Entirely about dying to the point he was not worth the loss of gold to try and stop but you still had to stop him because it cost your team towers to ignore it.

The main stat that matters, did your team smash the nexus. That's it. Stats alone are pointless if your not playing to win. If you don't convert good damage or kda or what ever into an advantage then you accomplished nothing positive. If you pad stats at the cost of your teammates ability to function, your handicapping your team despite "I GOT AN S"

Again. Playing for stats is very very easy. https://imgur.com/a/BLzYGg4. Ability up? enemy in range? us it. Add damage. Get a few extra autos in on some one befor you back. Roam for CS when you should be grouping. Clean up fights. Do 100 to 0% cheese 1v1 builds and harass squishy if they try to snag cs mid game. CC is best used when It matters. But if you want a high CC score you just spam it when ever you can, this hurts any one who expected you to hold onto it for the moments it made anything other then a superficial impact on your stats.

I will come back and edit in a link here to a thread showing the replay of the coustom game I ran playing to stat pad. Heading off to work now.

At the end of the day. I am happy to try and help you. I cant make you take it. You want to constantly say and ask the same things? Aight. I will likely chime in and give you the same responses. Because what's true remains true and I don't know why you expect different reply's when you repeat yourself.

Good stats only matter if you have a good win rate. There is much less effort needed to play for stat padding then there is for playing to win. If all you do is pad you hurt your team, the would be better off with some one with "weaker" stats who actually wants to win more then he wants to look good.

And no, I wont give you a pass on this when you clearly show your unwilling to work with your adc as a support main. That's negative behavior for your team and this is common knowledge. You make it harder to win any game you compete with your adc for cs, as the support its your JOB to not do this. You cant pin it on the adc for being "BAD" Your the support this is your responsibility. If its just an honest accident because you run AOE Mages and rush item 3285 almost always? Fine. Your a bit weaker as a player for not having self control or good aim on your skills. Your playstyles weaker as support. GO PLAY MID! That's a mid friendly playpattern. Don't have to care about bad wave management screwing your adc.

How ever you have been given this information. Its not news. You can still chose to play the same. It wont make it any better for your teammates.

Tldr. If you play with bad stats, bad win rate. Your probably playin very badly. If you only play for stats not to win, your win rates going to dive. Your playing very badly. Because if you don't contribute to the W your not helping. If you make it easier for the other team to win, your REALLY not helping. Don't gimp your adc. #supportingbasics.

As always just express when your finished interacting with me and I will leave you alone.

Here is my expectations. That your going to do just that in 1-3 paragraphs that completely ignore the body of what I just said. I will be bit disappointed but that's fine as I have come to expect it.

One day you might realize I am actually trying to help you, despite my abrasive attitude. That your constant doubt and suspicion of every interaction we have is misplaced. It would be nice if todays that day but if its not meh.

AeroWaffle5 votes

Let me get this straight. You are claiming that Riot specifically targeting you and matching you into losing teams because of the threads you made?

This is conspiracy level nonsense, what proof do you have of this? And no, your losses are not proof. The only thing that's proof of is you lost those games.

Inkling Commando2 votes

you shouldn't have started ranked to begin with. it a steaming pile of trash with toxic everywhere you look. and nobody don't give a shit about anything except winning.

Neosphoros1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Inkling Commando,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=R4fA8YAE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-27T19:56:26.118+0000)

you shouldn't have started ranked to begin with. it a steaming pile of trash with toxic everywhere you look. and nobody don't give a shit about anything except winning.

But probobility for winnig/loosing should be the same in this case. When I have lost 80% of my games, somebody have won his won games. So only what is possible to say that system doing that actions against some of us.

Inkling Commando1 votes

that's just it. people don't want to lose in ranked. if they are losing they go ape shit and give out reports like Oprah Winfrey.

CrazyMonkeyCZ2 votes

Yes, Riot wants you to lose all the normal games you will ever play... https://imgur.com/a/PFKUPN6

Imbetterthanmoe1 votes

duskblade on ashe support omegalul

Beerstein1 votes

Everyone below a certain threshold is experiencing this as they fill out the new Iron ranks. Example: Silver 1 before is now equal to Silver 4. But because they will start you in Bronze 1 ranked from Silver 1 but with the same MMR, it's meant for you to not as easily see that they're dumping you down a few ranks. Instead they want us to feel like "Oh maybe I'm struggling more and need to try harder."

Anyone below Plat 4 if I recall (I'd have to look again) will feel this. Everyone above will either feel no change or a positive one.

Neosphoros1 votes

Another proof that RIOT (in this case forum) protecting his lies and works to the detriment of players. They removes inconvenient for RIOT topics:

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/pl/c/community-moderation/xBdH918R-removal-of-the-topic-is-the-riot-want-to-kill-his-game

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