Started having an opinion on him when I realized how hard he is to play against. His windwall makes fighting against him in lane/teamfights super anti-fun. His windwall has no counterplay at all, you can't wittle it down, and don't tell me "GO AROUND IT" late game it's super big(enough to fit a team behind). And I'm getting sick of having him in every game.
Divewing4 votesIf yasuo had no double crit hed be infinitely easier to balance, as long as it exists, he will be a struggle
Ateka1 votesAgreed completely! Also he could use his flow as a resource. Let's say if it reaches it's maximum he can cast his windwall... Seems pretty logical to me
Divewing2 votesTo be honest, remove double crit, reduce % armour pen on ult, buff his defensive stats a bit, and suddenly he is prime top lane material
KONO RUBICK DA1 votesTo be honest, remove double crit, revert his nerfs, and suddenly he is prime top lane material
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Miraweave1 votesTo be honest, remove double crit, reduce % armour pen on ult, buff his defensive stats a bit, and suddenly he is prime top lane material
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The armor pen is absurd. Like, why does an ability that's already an incredibly strong aoe cc when combined with the knockup that you obviously have on your team if you picked yasuo, need to have 50 fucking percent armor pen on it. What the hell.
Divewing1 votesRemember it's not flat armour, it's bonus, so for squishies, it's basically useless
KaminoX2 votesi love that champ he needs anew skin :P
Akali is SO HOT2 voteslol git gud op
ApexInTheCircle1 votes[{quoted}](name=Akali is SO HOT,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=R3EpV3pt,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-08-15T08:32:59.731+0000)
lol git gud op
Ya got me! You're so good I wish you would teach me how to video games!
ApexInTheCircle1 votesMeh, he's not my favorite to fight against. I'm not saying he's op by any stretch, Just super unfun to play against.
WalkingInACircle1 votesUgh, the windwall's only the beginning. You should see what happens when a decent Yasuo unites with a decent knock-up initiator like Wukong or Malphite. If they don't wiff their combo, you have no chance at teamfights.
And yeah, theres nothing weak about his early game. At all. He'll be in your face the entire time and he has the best waveclear of any low level champion in the game. No costs no cooldowns. People who think you can just poke his shield down are imagining a Yasuo that doesn't all in you every time it comes up - which every decent Yasuo does.
He needs a rework. The crit part of his passive forces his build and breaks item gold value balance, the windwall is binary and stupid, the e should never have been unlimited mobility, and ult is of binary value depending on teammates and ludicrous with the right ones.
Critmaster Garen2 votesUgh, the windwall's only the beginning. You should see what happens when a decent Yasuo unites with a decent knock-up initiator like Wukong or Malphite. If they don't wiff their combo, you have no chance at teamfights.
And yeah, theres nothing weak about his early game. At all. He'll be in your face the entire time and he has the best waveclear of any low level champion in the game. No costs no cooldowns. People who think you can just poke his shield down are imagining a Yasuo that doesn't all in you every time it comes up - which every decent Yasuo does.
He needs a rework. The crit part of his passive forces his build and breaks item gold value balance, the windwall is binary and stupid, the e should never have been unlimited mobility, and ult is of binary value depending on teammates and ludicrous with the right ones.
try to play him yourself and youll see how conditional his entire kit is.
his e doesnt have unlimited mobility by the way. riven has unlimited mobility. kassadin has unlimited mobility when hes strong.
yasuo can only dash a fixed distance over enemy units. and not over the same unit twice within 10 seconds. if you keep track of where he already dashed, you can predict his next moves and dump him.
windwall has an 18 second cooldown. and his passive actually gives him an incentive to build damage instead of just turning him into a bruiser.
imo hes one of the best designed champions in the game. the problem most people have with him is game knowledge. you need to almost understand his kit as well as the guy whos playing him to use his restrictions against him. because every ability in his kit comes with some restrictions attached.
The Quinndred1 votesHonestly, my only problems with him are the invulnerable windwall, double crit chance and reduced crit damage. He has a fantastic kit and whatnot, i just think that those need to be removed/reworked,
SKOBODO1 votesI'd probably tone down his late game ultimate CD. It's 30 seconds with 0% CDR, 18 seconds with 40% CDR. Maybe it should be 40 seconds wih 0% CDR, 24 seconds with 40% CDR?
Lux is generally considered to have a short CD ultimate. Hers is 50 sec at rank 3. Yasuo's is 30 sec.
Akali is SO HOT2 votesI'd probably tone down his late game ultimate CD. It's 30 seconds with 0% CDR, 18 seconds with 40% CDR. Maybe it should be 40 seconds wih 0% CDR, 24 seconds with 40% CDR?
Lux is generally considered to have a short CD ultimate. Hers is 50 sec at rank 3. Yasuo's is 30 sec.
They intentionally made CDR a bad stat on Yasuo so they could justify it's low cooldown. Otherwise you would see Yasuo with an 18 second cooldown ultimate every game. Lux's ult is at 50 seconds because she always builds CDR.
SKOBODO1 votes[{quoted}](name=Akali is SO HOT,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=R3EpV3pt,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2015-08-15T08:42:24.780+0000)
They intentionally made CDR a bad stat on Yasuo so they could justify it's low cooldown. Otherwise you would see Yasuo with an 18 second cooldown ultimate every game. Lux's ult is at 50 seconds because she always builds CDR.
That is true. Still, even with 0% CDR, 30 sec CD is really short. Level 16 Lux with 40% CDR has the same CDR on her ulti as Yasuo with 0% CDR.
Divewing1 votesLux doesn't need a CCd target to use her ultimate