Is ascension better than TT? Should they swap places?

Hammermancer··32 votes·1,324 views

Let's actually talk about this

Ascension has clear objectives, clear strategies, a clear meta, and lasts a short period of time. The game itself has a small map just like TT, and offers a more fight oriented fast paced game experience the way TT does.

Ascension matches won't ever be over 35 minutes unless there's a weird kill only thing going on

TT was released to be a 3v3 game that felt like fighting in the jungle, they tried to make it feel more compact and they wanted it to take less time than SR. the truth of it is: on average TT games last longer due to a failure in map design which allows people to siege and defend almost endlessly

Ascension has its own meta, which seems to favor Supports, then tanks, then fighters and mages (Assassins included here)

TT meta seems to be 3 man cheese comps.

TT is overrun by bots

ascension is not,

The crystal scar map has cleaner textures and a better "In the jungle" feel than the TT map. There is definitely a lot of skill involved including target picking, enemy evasion, outplay mechanics, and map awareness which all combine to create something that encourages team play while allowing for sweet 1v1 fights

now here's the next part

TT 3 man ranked is a smaller pool of people to face off against, it takes a long time to get into a match and honestly the space could be used for ascension

ranked ascension? that's stupid the game is wonky and imbalanced!

yeah true, but it could be easily fixed by specific itemization balance within that game mode, the game offers more in the way of lessons for newer players than TT or Aram, and seems to be more liked than TT at the least.

"But it's just a bonus game"

true, but among the bonus games it sticks out as the best of them, where most of them take place on SR or have a specific gimmick, Ascension feels like its own game, it offers enough complexity to allow for interesting strategy while it's simplistic enough to have a pretty low learning curve. It's different from SR in enough of a way that it wont feel like a shittier version of 5v5 norms the way TT honestly feels. The game in and of itself is more fleshed out than Hexakill, TT, Definitely not Dominion, or nexus siege and doesn't lend itself to the absurdities of modes like one for all, nemesis draft, or Urf.

Ok but it's not good enough to always be a mode right?

I disagree, there may be a few things on the map that need refining.. like maybe a vision buff to deal with teemo traps, maybe it needs to be draft pick instead of 5 ban blind pick, but it definitely is at its core a solid mode.

20 Comments

Syllin15 votes

Im not sure they should get rid of TT but they should absolutely add ascension perma. I would end up playing it more than aram and I play a ton O aram.

RavenMagus15 votes

TT is overrun by bots

ascension is not,

Switch the modes and I guarantee the bots will switch too.

Honestly, I'd rather just see some balancing work done for TT.

RenownedWheat4212 votes

I love TT and don't want to see it thrown to RGM, but I'd love perma ascension at the same time.

Rebonack9 votes

I wouldn't mind having Ascension around regularly. While I don't enjoy it quite as much as I did Dominion, it's still miles better than the options we have now.

Simply put, Riot, we need a 'For Fun' map that lets you pick your champion.

Mega Noob4 votes

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I wouldn't mind having Ascension around regularly. While I don't enjoy it quite as much as I did Dominion, it's still miles better than the options we have now.

Simply put, Riot, we need a 'For Fun' map that lets you pick your champion.

Give this man a cookie

ModCaptainMårvelous8 votes

It boggles my mind of Ascension isn't a perma mode yet. It's fantastic for shorter games without ARAM locking you into a weird random champ and the mode could definitely use a chance to shine. It's what dominion should have been.

The Bearded Bard6 votes

Absolutely.

HarrowR6 votes

TL:DR yes,i would love to have Ascencion as a permanent map,its probably one of my favorites of the Rotating Game modes

Xonra6 votes

No

BubbaV3 votes

yes and i would love for it to replace TT but knowing riot they won't do anything to help us have fun with what they've done with this game

Żügżwäng3 votes

3v3 is highly underrated. The question is not "should we replace TT" (NO), but "should we ADD Ascension".

J5Cld2hgRx2 votes

Yes please delete TT so i dont have to grind to gold for next season :))))))) Was fucking hard as many champions are balanced from 5V5 (summoner's rift) rather than 3V3 TT

SeanThomas21 votes

they both have their places in the community

vgamedude1 votes

URF should

The Great Divide1 votes

Assassins, stealth, and bruisers rule ascension even more than TT (where they're already strong). TBH the balance issues of TT are heightened in ascension so no thank you. Maybe add it yes, but not replace it

iPooUnicorns1 votes

lolno Cancer supports are dominant af

Hammermancer2 votes

also tanks

basically just adcs are weak

literally just adcs

and not even all of them, Mobile marksmen work fine in the mode you just gotta build them a little different than normal Ezreal Lucian Graves Caitlyn Quinn Vayne Tristana are all pretty good

everyone else is decent enough.. sure I wouldn't want to be a specialist split push anti-tower champ,

hhaavviikk1 votes

idk all I see is assassin fiesta there, not exactly fun to fight against

ShadowParker1 votes

You say balancing work to fix the problems that lie in ascension but couldn't the same be said for Twisted treeline?

It shouldn't happen.

Elkington VI1 votes

I agree completely. We need at least one permanent Crystal Scar mode. Also, the queue times for 3v3 get ridiculously long the more you play it. It's also one of the worst modes to try things out on due to how snowbally/binary games get.

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