Regarding Twin Shadows

CoolKnightST··1 votes·920 views

I feel that item 3023 is in a strange spot like now. Not because the stats or active are bad. The item is actualy really good. But their are some things that worries me a little bit:

2 invulnerable ghosts that seek the two nearest enemy champions is really nice to give information about the position on the enemy team. But it doesn't keep this information for yourself. If these ghosts doesn't hit a target it actively provides more information to the enemy team than yours. The enemy will see the direction these ghost are coming from. This will mean they already get a idea about the position of your team. Than if they go back to the owner they litterly get confirmation and correction from this information again.

This makes the item verry situation and only a fell situations it's possible to fully utilize the active:

  • When splitpushing
  • When you already known the enemy team has vision over you
  • When you primary use the item for the slow (rather than the utility it provides)

Both of these 3 stragisch each come with their flaws:

  • For splitpush this item is still really effective for it price. However it doesn't will help you with waveclear & Luden's Echo (new item on pbe) will probaly replace this item in some of those situations.
  • Knowning the enemy has vision over you is probaly the moment you are losing the game. Than twin shadows that provide no combat stats doesn't really benefit your team a lot.
  • The slow is pretty weak and their are a lot of other item that would provide your team more benefits from it.

Still none of the available strategies break down the item entirely. It's still not a bad thing to have it. It just doesn't shine anymore for one specific situation.


#Idea

What if whe do this:

UNIQUE ACTIVE - HUNT: Summons 2 invulnerable ghosts for 6 seconds to seek the two nearest enemy champions. If they touch an enemy champion, they slow their movement speed by 40% and reveal them for 2.5 seconds. Ghosts that fail to find a target transform into a 60 seconds ward. 80 second cooldown.

This would make item 3023 similar to item 3342 in the way of providing vision on a longer distance.

Note that this is a idea that in this state of the game is maybe not a good idea yet. But maybe in a later version of the game might become viable. For example, whe still don't known what they will do with item 2049. And maybe this version of item 3023 could be a good replacement towards that (add least for mages).

6 Comments

3tyson1 votes

I am actualy a huge fan of twin shadow for a jungler i main nidalee in the jungle Wich doesnt have anny real cc

this item gurantees you to slow even if far wich makes landing a spear more easy searches for the counter jungler at the same time

its great while counter jungling to see if your save and it helped me get out of nasty situations a few time

i dont realy like the idea of ghost turning into a ward since they wouldnt come back to reduce cdr annymore ?

actualy the best way to buff this item to me would be cdr 20% instead of 10

or even better! Give it 50/100% base mana regen that would make it rock so much!

Jalkan1 votes

No.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

how about no

Cindikle1 votes

That's a lot of vision honestly. Vision doesn't really need a buff. Other than ways to deal with Eve but Riot's working on that. Imagine them getting it to work and she actually gets a buff....

I think it getting buffed to 100ap is all it needs really. It has to fight over some high priority slots that usually go to high ap items

3tyson1 votes

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That's a lot of vision honestly. Vision doesn't really need a buff. Other than ways to deal with Eve but Riot's working on that. Imagine them getting it to work and she actually gets a buff....

I think it getting buffed to 100ap is all it needs really. It has to fight over some high priority slots that usually go to high ap items

Its more or les a suport item id feel like mana regen would be more in its place ?

USG Morta1 votes

i mostly use this item active during teamfights, especially in the jungle to prevent at least 2 of them from dropping aggro into bushes and the slow is pretty helpful too, especially chasing down for cleanup

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