I'm pretty sure 
will not be nerfed. And if riot would do it their just stupid. Actualy the reason why Nautilus support can be viable is actualy a wakeup call for the current state of supports namely poke supports (early supports) like 
just don't have the proper itematization.
Riot already stated they will release an support item build out 
. I just hope they will finaly realise it's time to give this a little bit more priority.
KidSpectre2 votesI guess you've never had a (or 
for that matter) walk into lane with 50 AP and a spell thief's.
CoolKnightST1 votesThis is exactly what I'm reffering to. These type of support or the perfect counters for these tank supports. You can perfectly win a lane with against . But than you must ask yourself. Why don't players pick her to counter it.
just provide a lot more compaired to 
. Not only is it 300 gold cheaper. provides a lot more to your team than ever will.
I'm perfectly fine to play a lane against an just because I known I will be more usefull as an support across the entire game. It's not compairing the matchup anymore. It's what you can do in your role for your team.
KidSpectre1 votesHold on now, your argument is getting a bit off-base.
First of all, in terms of itemization there is no reason why Karma can't build (in fact, it has great synergy with her R+E). Since we're talking about Karma in the support role specifically, this is actually a strong choice. In addition, Karma has item options that just don't viably exist for Nautilus as a support (like 
)
As far as being useful across the entire game, you can't downplay the strengths Nautilus has, for sure. However, Karma is also useful across the entire game, it's just that her playstyle--and even role in teamfights--shifts in the mid-to-late game.
Early to mid game, Karma is a strong poke support. However, when the teamfighting phase starts, Karma transitions into pokes and strong group engaging. Karma excels at getting her whole team into a fight at once. She also helps her carries kite enemies with her slows, roots, shields, etc. It's different than the standard "disrupt the enemy lines" engagement, but it is useful and effective in its own right.
CoolKnightST2 votesOffcourse can build . Their are actualy only a verry fell support where the item actualy isn't viable on them. But stat wise it's not an item the suppose to be designed for this role.
When I think about the role of early/poke/mage support you think about ability power, you think about magic penetration and you think about movementspeed when it comes to offensive terms. Karma is a champion that suppose to get ability power but their are actualy only a verry fell support items that actualy provide that stat. And even if they provide it they are actualy really situation picks:
If you think about a supportive item that is worth rushing it has to contain defensive stats to be viable in terms of blind rushing an item while still have a decent price and provide peeling for your team. Stable support items like that are:
http://i.imgur.com/yEt8Jru.png
The only thing these things have in common is that they all provide defensive stats. Poke supports suppose to be able todo their job offensively.
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TheFrozenIsles1 votesI hope you are right about the support item because I keep going tank tell that happens. As Ap is far to hard to get on a support and still be good for you team.
CoolKnightST1 votesExactly that why whe desperately need that support item build out . This is exactly what this group of solid support items needs:
