Why the hate on Eve assasin

DrKessler·12/29/2014, 1:27:01 AM·3 votes·894 views

Hi everyone, heres the problem. Everyone seems to hate assasin eve, people says «eve assasin suck, its unviable», «eve is a tank, not an assasin». I tried every way of playing eve as an assasin, and no matter what i build, even if im succesful, players will always respond hate comments on how «bad» eve sucks if u dont build as tank. I've even seen this one «eve always was a tank, not an assasin, pro players were wrong»

TLDR : why the hate on assasin eve, she was designed to be played as an assasin, not a tank/ ad bruiser.

20 Comments

Bears Dont Care12/29/2014, 1:30:24 AM4 votes

Because being assassinated by someone who you can see from 700 range is unfair, meanwhile, being assassinated by Zed who proceeds to escape 1000+ units from the enemy team is not acceptable.

People whine because she has stealth, even though that stealth is only useful for skipping wards and not actually ganking like twitch or Shaco.

MalzaharAnyLane12/29/2014, 1:31:08 AM2 votes

You should probably study her patch update history before asking that question, it's really quite illuminating.

Eve's been back and forth between 'make newbies want to quit the game but obnoxiously difficult to use against veterans without playing teamfight janitor 24/7' to 'complete dog poo' to her current state, which still had to be nerfed to prevent her from 0-100ing people mid-game with DFG same as Ahri.

That's really just a very very brief summary of a development history you absolutely MUST be aware of before asking your question. Once you understand that, it becomes a little more obvious why people complain about assassin Eve. Assassin Eve doesn't initiate fights and doesn't contribute to damage, she pretty much just ults and cleans up. If she does anything besides that, she usually doesn't survive her teamfights.

Outside of her ult, she takes out one target and then feeds. Assassins are only well-liked in team comps if there is a very good likelihood they will survive blowing up their target. (See: Fizz, Kassadin, Ahri, etc.) If they are just doing one to one trades all day, then there will come a point the target buys armor and it no longer becomes a one to one trade and the assassin gets peeled and feeds.

Eve's Q, W and E are all DPS tools, they aren't really burst tools. That's why you're getting told to build Tank Eve. Is it the right answer? Not necessarily, it's situational.

Just Jangle12/29/2014, 1:45:41 AM2 votes

Bcuz she deals no damage right now, the AD Brusier type AD was good months ago when she had high damage early game now she doesnt and if you full AP or AD it doesnt add much damage to your late game, you will be instant blow up.

She is in a terrible state rigth now, lets see if the buffs we got in the horizon gonna make her viable.

8yVkmwxq0D12/29/2014, 1:58:46 AM2 votes

i think they should bring back her stun when hitting from stealth. With the new stealth, all someone has to do is damage her to get out of stealth, but if she is able to get to the person without breaking stealth, she should stun. Does that detection mechanic de-stealth her before she can get to an enemy? If so, my suggestion obviously doesn't work.

xLegendary Troll12/29/2014, 1:58:58 AM2 votes

In season 2 Eve with trinity force, wit's end, and wrigglers lanturn was strong enough to solo almost everyone including WW and Irellia. Sustained damage is far more superior than burst against tanks and a squishy "assassin" eve is useless once she comes out of the shadows. Her gimmick is to be able to surprise and stick to her target while taking full advantage of the increase attack speed bonus from her E. Life steal scales with attack speed well, so a tanky/sustain/dps Eve is far more superior than AP.

Penguin Eclipse12/29/2014, 2:03:40 AM2 votes

Eve's not in a good place right now. And I doubt she will be anytime soon.

Epilogue of Life12/29/2014, 3:17:17 AM2 votes

Cuz other champions can build glass cannon and achieve so much more.

AtheosisX12/29/2014, 8:28:45 AM2 votes

Mute people who bitch about your builds and do what you want. That's my advice.

DrKessler12/29/2014, 1:36:50 AM1 votes

But why would that explain the fact that people think eve is a tank and not an assasin (AP ad hybrid what ever u want) I know that being burst from stealth is very annoying but is it a reason to remove it?

should the «real» stealth assasins (shaco rengar) get rework into the eve-kind stealth or not, its a quite complicate subject but i dont want to dwell on this subject.

Kuroi8612/29/2014, 7:49:08 AM1 votes

Her damage took some massive hits. Burst plus stealth can be quite toxic, she needs to balanced around her burst with her stealth being a bonus, not balanced around her stealth with any burst being a bonus.

Oerba No Naja7/10/2015, 11:04:26 PM1 votes

eve is a fcking ap bruiser , who is designed for flank and assasint he back line