Does anybody actually miss Kalista?

warpenguin555·Jul 1, 2016·64 votes·4,605 views

Besides the Kalista mains of course, but I shouldn't have to explain why they dont count this time around.

111 Comments

aLawfulFalafelJul 2, 201631 votes

she can hop her way out of any game im playing, i dont even want her on my team tbh

Only Play DariusJul 2, 201625 votes

No one misses her. We're all fine with leaving her to rot in the gutter for as long as needed.

MunchCrunchLunchJul 2, 201618 votes

no hell no. shes too damn toxic to play against. i dont like to see champions weak and unviable. but when they kinda squeeze all the fun out of the game for me am happy to see them go.

IceKingChernobogJul 2, 201616 votes

Not with that disgusting kit of hers.

OleandervineJul 2, 201613 votes

I wish they'd fix her. I like her as a character, and her kit is pretty fun. If they even replaced her passive and nothing else, that'd be great.

OleandervineJul 2, 201611 votes

C'mon guys, she was made by CertainlyT. You'd think the balance/playtest/champ teams would just stop him at conception, nerf his idea into the ground, and then let him continue. At this point, I'm not even sure why he's allowed to do design work anymore considering how overpowered and insidious his designs become. Look at all of his releases - Thresh, Zyra, Yasuo, and Kalista were absolute game breaking on release. It took nerfing them into the ground to be able to bring them to a healthier playable state. Then look at Graves and Caitlyn, the two marksman he updated. Graves was a terror and had to be nerfed. Caitlyn is ramping up to that point. And on the horizon, we have Warwick. We all remember when he was a terror. Can you imagine what horrible things will become of him once he relaunches?

KeevalroyJul 2, 20166 votes

Can you imagine what horrible things will become of him once he relaunches?

Something like his Morde rework I'd imagine, or overloaded and obnoxious like Yasuo...or both.

BastionKrossJul 2, 20168 votes

You seem to have forgotten one of his most unpopular recent creations.

Mordekaiser

Nameless VoiceJul 2, 20164 votes

The problem isn't and never was that his champions were overpowered on release. That doesn't matter, if they're well-designed then it's just a matter of changing the numbers to bring them in line.

The problem was that Yasuo and Kalista have completely toxic, anti-fun kits that can never be properly balanced. They can either be nerfed into the ground, or strong enough that no one wants to play against them, ever.

Power level is the job of the balance team; good champion design is the job of the designer.

SpecterVonBarenJul 3, 20161 votes

Don't forget Darius, the big middle finger to anyone that dares to play a melee top laner.

Truly PridefulJul 2, 20169 votes

Nope, she's more than welcome to keep not existing in my games.

MalfiniJul 2, 20167 votes

I miss her being played as a team mate with me playing with either Malphite Maokai Alistar or Morgana .

THE ULTIMATE TAG TEAM!!!

Kalista 's Fate's Call + Malphite 's Unstoppable Force Kalista 's Fate's Call + Maokai 's Arcane Smash and Twisted Advance and Vengeful Maelstrom Kalista 's Fate's Call + Alistar 's Pulverize Kalista 's Fate's Call + Morgana 's Dark Binding and Tormented Soil and Black Shield/Barrier and Soul Shackles

EDIT: A player good with playing with Kalista

Around999PeopleJul 2, 20169 votes

Kalista + Thresh

MalfiniJul 2, 20164 votes

Seems players good with Kalista are only once in a blue moon to encounter as a team mate. item 3070

Zane ZephyrJul 2, 201611 votes

once in a blood moon*

Masala ChaiJul 2, 20163 votes

Once in a championship series*

The Great DivideJul 2, 20163 votes

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If they're both good at their champions, you will not win lane... period

SpoofghoulJul 2, 20165 votes

you missed the best ones m8

Kalista + Galio Kalista + Nunu Kalista + Amumu

IpressbuttonJul 2, 20167 votes

Her passive is too strong against melee champs with no gap closers, Riot would have had to design new champs going forward with this in mind, then we get mobility power creep

DesideriumJul 2, 20166 votes

Some champions just simply don't deserve to exist.

Sightless66Jul 2, 20164 votes

Do you ever miss any champion you don't play?

MelledoneusJul 2, 20164 votes

Yes. I miss playing against Aatrox in top lane. It's a lane you can actually win with skill rather than stat checks until one of you get fed.

MrBuffingtonJul 2, 20167 votes

...Isn't Aatrox a posterchild ball-of-stats champion?

MelledoneusJul 2, 20162 votes

He needs setup to auto, though. If you manage to work around his Q, you can potentially beat him.

SpecterVonBarenJul 3, 20161 votes

If the enemy manages to beat you with Aatrox then they are more skilled than you and would be able to 1v5 your whole team if they played a different champ.

YCitizenSnipsYJul 2, 20162 votes

No, when he was strong he just face tanked you with better sustain and you had to kill him twice. No skill in that lane when he is strong. This is just classic circle jerking a champion that is unpopular.

RalanrJul 1, 20163 votes

Not really.

ZorasamaJul 2, 20163 votes

HigeJul 2, 20163 votes

she is broken OP when played correctly by you AND your oathsworn, sadly :S

I do like her niche though but she needs a reworked ult and W and that damn black spear.

RistosJul 2, 20163 votes

I miss her, shes has a cool kit

SolidPoohJul 2, 20163 votes

I've been missing her for months :(

Shes practically useless now

iMaB3ASTJul 3, 20163 votes

I don't miss her when I barely see her, but she misses me when she doesnt see me.

Read her passive to those who don't get the joke

blfUvZ8YbuJul 1, 20162 votes

Rito is a liar.They say ''Meta change is important for me'' but they allow to Sivir for 5 months.

Kalista needs buff and Rito hurry up we're tired of Sivir.

Lady HammerlockJul 2, 201612 votes

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Rito is a liar.They say ''Meta change is important for me'' but they allow to Sivir for 5 months.

Kalista needs buff and Rito hurry up we're tired of Sivir.

what the hell? Sivir will always be "meta" because of her utility so unless you completely strip her of her utility she'll always be relevant even if its only a little and she's arguably one of the most balanced AD's atm,she's overshadowed by the other spell casting ADC's and her utility out classed by Ashe

JamesTheMage17Jul 2, 20162 votes

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Rito is a liar.They say ''Meta change is important for me'' but they allow to Sivir for 5 months.

Kalista needs buff and Rito hurry up we're tired of Sivir.

No, Kalista needs a nerf. Her E is literally broken in the early game.

XeruonJul 2, 20164 votes

Do you even know how much Kalista has been nerfed at this point?

KeevalroyJul 2, 20165 votes

She's still breathing, so not enough.

XeruonJul 2, 20161 votes

Honestly, she's weak enough to not cause any problems outside co-ordinated play. The only time you're ever gonna worry about her is if a Kalista main is in duo queue with a Thresh main, at which point the roflstomp doens't come from the champion being broken, but from personal skill and insane synergy.

I won't deny she's one of the most poorly desinged champions in the game, but hey, anything CertainlyT manages to cough up is broken on release so...yeah. Wonder why they never let Classick (Rengar's creator) never make a champion again, yet they let CertainlyT handle so much shit.

Only Play DariusJul 3, 20161 votes

Did they really fire a Rioter simply for making a poorly designed champion (their first no less)? Doubtful that was the sole reason, if so CertainlyT would probably have received the same after his first champ Darius

XeruonJul 3, 20161 votes

I didn't say he was fired, but from as far as we know, he never made another champion again, did he?

CasterGilgameshJul 2, 20162 votes

i miss kalista i cant stand Lucian Ezreal these two adc's should never be strong.....i would rather MissFortune Sivir Varus be strong

XeruonJul 2, 20161 votes

Imho, it's fine if Ezreal is strong if he isn't abusing some outragous on-hit item. Then again, every time he's been strong, it's been because an on-hit item is breaking his Q; Spirit of the Elder Lizard, Release Runglaive, and Iceborn Gauntlet. Lucian shouldn't be strong under any circumstance in his current state.

MissFortune is fine if she isnt ridiculously overtuned, the only reason I wouldn't want Sivir in the META is because when she is META, so is Vayne . And fuck Vayne.

CasterGilgameshJul 3, 20161 votes

thats why we need Varus to counter that cancerous Vayne

XeruonJul 3, 20161 votes

From my knowledge, a good Vayne will always win against a Varus in a 1v1 situration outside of laning phase.

It Hertz When IPJul 2, 20162 votes

I miss her in the thematic sense: a living spirit of vengeance who throws ghostly spears. They could literally entirely replace her passive, W, AND ult and I'd still be happy.

KingnewgameplusJul 2, 20161 votes

My crack kit design idea for kalista is for her passive to just be the "spear of bondage" or whatever the item is, and to change her w active into a aoe type zone about the size of trundle, where it reduces your aa damage by 10%, but you get teh mad hopps that kalista is known for for 5 seconds, and maybe the oathsworn can get some sort of buff while they are in the zone, autozone. This way kalista has to choose between the mobility to dodge skillshots or raw damage.

P.S. Ignore my numbers I am not a balancer.