Defensive itemization has been significanty nerf crept

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Unless you are a tank/fighter with %dmg reduction or some good untargetability/cant be damaged you are not viable melee champion

Randiun is in horrible state compared to specially something like season 2 Frozen Hearth is in horrible state specially compared to season 2 Warmog is in horrible state specially compared to season 2 Ninja tabi is weaker compared to any season

Minions dont punish ranged champions as hard compared to other seasons. Ranged vs melee lanes are )::::::::::::::::::::::: Minion block fk us up melee champions if anything more then before

Last whisper singlehandledly makes 4 armor items worthless only way to combat this is by having dmg reduction or being cho gath j4 pressing stoneplate and abusing shields / omnom in a wierd way I also hate the new penetration formula

**High elo viable melee champs are ** Tanks/bruisers with dmg reduction (thats like only 25% of them), Stoneplate abusers. Aka champions who can build full hp + stoneplate (j4, cho) Yasuo because he has windwall so the ammount of dmg doesnt matter that much. + Abusing adc items also he is good vs knockbacks Trynda best splitpusher in a game. As far as I am concerned THE ONLY non trash SPLITPUSHER IN A GAME. dmg he takes also doesnt matter because of R, Anti adc with his W Fiora / riven are niche picks. Either just good or utterly unplayable (Hi janna trist alistar lulu) try playing em vs those. But they have religious mains so...good if mastered but you can easly have so unplayable games

Irelia she is quite a cancer and well known anti ragned champions. Her bladesurge and sustain works well vs ranged champs awell as her E Rumble / Gp. Aka not actually ranged champs Ocassionaly duskblade champion can pop off, which says alot about this current game state. Duskblade is legit unehalthy and beyond broken yet it is not meta Akali works due to her being overtuned. You dont need dmg reduction if you have stealth. Hard to gank, good damage, good against knockbacks, Xin zhao - Only way to not get instagibbed is if you block al the autoattacks.. he works... Zac - while he doesnt have dmg reduction. His passive and its delay can function similarly aswell as having engage from 1230133 range still outclassed but not trash tier because he doesnt have dmg reduction unlike most melee champs

Rest stealth champions are bad because twitch jungle is quite meta. Akali is however toplane stealth champ so she works

List of non mentioned melee champs most of which are in horrible state. Aatrox might aswell suffer with riven/fiora or play irelia Amumu dmg reduction not found (passive has to weak value) Blitzcrank Outclassed by thresh. Every single thresh ability including hook is better then blitzcranks except his ultimate. Hook has higher range, stuns longer, can be angled, less mana, less cooldown etc. But if you arent good thresh pick blitz else outclassed Braum Duh dmg reduction Rakan I personaly think he is overated. But this thread isnt exactly about melee supports. Games are to snowbally and he is bad early Darius no dmg reduction, Dies to fast DrMundo No dmg reduciton dies to fast Singed No dmg reduction despite having steroids Evelynn Twitch exists Fizz well his troll pole into zhonya into troll pole doesnt care about dmg reduction he is somewhat viable Garen Noob friendly champion. Riot never allowed him to do anythign at my elo. The only champion with dmg reduction which is bad O.O. granted its really shrot dmg reduction

Hecarim Doesnt have the best type of dmg reduction. His w in a nutshell restores 20% of dmg he takes.. almost viable Illaoi Lul good luck hitting anything, Pain in the ass earlygame Ivern Found an exception. But they had to buff him... and he is support didnt really take supports into a count Jax Ehm not the best type of dmg reduction outclassed by other skirmishers ire/fiora/yasuo Kassadin He was permaban tier on and off. Sadly we cant bann him anymore because we have to target all the banns for botlane. A broken unhealthy exception I FORGOT Katarina Actually surprised I forgot about my main. She is viable always unless we are in heavy cc meta Kayle What if I told you she is not melee. Riot can identify her as melee but she isnt Kayn Untargetability saves him from taking dmg so he works Khazix This champion is borderline unhealthy and he was often banned before ADC overbuffs but twitch is even more unhealthy and says hi Kled I legit have no idea how his shields and healthbars work. Should be changed to look mordekaisers way. He doesnt have dmg reduction but has 12313 healthbars LeeSin I would rather jungle with AD le blanc and know I ll have more sucess on that then cheese a game with lee sin and being just another support for adc Udyr His rework keeps getting reverted MonkeyKing Why pick superior engage champion, In a meta where you can legit engage on 4 people with Twitch kill 2 and win a fight just because they are to low to beat your allies afterwards. Also lots of good engage midlaners atm aurelion/Orianna/anivia/malzahar/Syndra/Azir. we rarely need wukong engage. J4 is just superior stoneplate abuser also.. Volibear the least viable champion in a game Yorick Trash but some people ahve no idea what he does Malphite where is dmg reduction? Tripling his passive wont do shit like there is no diff between 500 armor and 1500 armor his w might do 100 more dmg thats it. Fk tbh there is no diff between 120 armor and 300 armor nowdays Nautilus dmg reduction not found Nasus ok he actually loses to laneswaps more then he does to not having dmg reduction Rammus Has no dmg reduction but its ADC meta so he is like 6th best tank. if you think thats viable OK Trundle no dmg reduction found? skirmishers are better Vi no dmg reduction Shyvana no dmg reduction catchup experience fks her up Pantheon trash after dia3+ can randomly win due to duskblade and snowball botlane meta but bad compared to riven/fiora/irelia. Easy to play however for autofills Zed half ranged / has untargetability Talon outclassed by zed if you want stealth pick twitch mid. Twitch jungle + mid support which doesnt farm and lets his baby twitch take mid + jungle is MORE META THEN TALON legit MasterYi close to being meta actually i do think he functions at my elo well enough might have had good yi experience though Leona so one dimensional.. yet she has w? Mordekaiser horrible state both bug wise, satisfaction wise, counterplay wise (E Still annoying) waveclearing and going backwards is annoying to enemies , but generaly wont do much unless someone decides to try and stat check him aparently it happens in NA high elo

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AirKingNeo1 votes

So then is every tank unkillable unless you have an ADC attacking them (a meta ADC) and also Thornmail, Adaptive Helm, and Gargoyle Stoneplate completely warp the entire game?

Tanks aren't weak. What a joke.

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