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Jhin sucks. Here is why

PinguinZo·2/15/2016, 4:42:30 PM·3 votes·1,474 views

  • Lots of damage applications don`t proc his W. For example Statik shiv or even his own Q. Why? That and other abilites which I have seen many times deal damage but not proc his W to be castable.

  • his E passive might as well just give him a flower above his head when he kills someone, because as long as it doesn`t proc on assists, his teamfight ability is basically non existant. Rarely does Jhin get the killer last shot cause he has to play around his 4th shot the entire game while his team basically killsteals everything under his nose

  • Q cast range not increased with level. Early games he can take the beatings from 1 auto if he gets in range to cast his Q, but after that his Q becomes basically useless since it offers 0 utlity outside of farming creeps.

  • E damage ( if not built handicap pure damage Jhin) is also non existant or takes far too long to proc. Literally any champ with at least 1 leg can step out of it or outplay around it. It`s explosion range should level up at least a little with every level or the detonation time.

  • 1 single lockdown and Jhin is dead meat. Yes he is ment to be played that way. But after 4 shots, assuming u even are alive to get to the forth, u are basically an attackless clown for 2 seconds until your gun which deals 0 damage to anyone with more than 50 armor is done reloading before getting a powerful last shot.

  • mastery tree basically forcing him to go 1 single path. The Warlord path. Yes, you COULD take something else, but that would handicap yourself by at least 50 % of your potential damage. NO champ should be forced into taking 1 single keystone.

  • way too slow attack speed gain. Compared with other champs buying attack speed, Jhin has the slowest piece of attack speed growth I have ever seen. Yes, I know. He gets damage with attack speed, but that doesnt make up ANYTHING compared to having to fight an 2.00 udyr with your puny 0.90 at level 18. NOTHING.

I am mastery 4 with him by now, and the only games I won were literally only me getting carried. I played the entire league roster and even the worst of the worst are better champs than Jhin. Yes they maybe dont deal as much damage as him, but limiting a champ only for his damage while 95% of the rest of his stats are garbage isnt the objective either. He really needs some hottweaks on how his spells work. His kit itself is PERFECT

6 Comments

TheMinez2/15/2016, 4:56:52 PM1 votes

Ever try getting 100% crit and having 500+ movespeed every auto? Kite for days is his calling.

Astôlfo2/15/2016, 5:05:18 PM1 votes

I was thinking a few things with Jhin.

  1. His flower-mark that lets his W root enemies proc'ing off ally attacks seems a bit silly sometimes, but the fact it also doesn't proc off his Q or any other itemized attacks (Shiv/stuff that bounces like Luden's/etc) is also stupid.

  2. His Q prioritization is just really really bad. Like, it's in plain range of a champion and it will still go for the minions sometimes. I feel like the prioritization should be more like: Minions in whichever order would kill the most -> bounce to nearby enemy champion with lowest health on the last hit. If there's not enough minions, it would just bounce to said enemy champion whenever possible.

  3. He has no escape really, which I don't mind that much - although it is definitely irritating at times. The closest thing he has (outside of items) is his movement speed boost from his passive. But being completely unable to change the reload time at all is also just really restricting I think. Even if there's some sort of limit that prevents the player from reducing it below like, let's say 1 second or so (for the sake of balance, given his fourth shots are always strong, and his abilities too), that would still be immensely better than the current 2.5 seconds of running away/spamming abilities.

  4. Q cast range/E explosion range per level increasing sounds decent, I'd just be careful on how far to extend it.

  5. Getting the E passive off assists would definitely help, because right now, his sole existence in teamfights is mostly: Hope you can root them so your allies can finish them off // Hope they step into a trap, if they do, do step A. // Finish off people running away/scare people off with ult. He really doesn't have much of anything else he can actively do.

Just my thoughts on the champion. I personally really like his kit, but I feel like there's a lot of issues holding him back from being actually good.

Dominick Destine2/15/2016, 5:05:42 PM1 votes

He's getting buffed next patch.

Calm down man.

Alsek2/15/2016, 5:14:15 PM1 votes

I'm terrified of the buff. I feel like people are still just figuring out how to play him.

I feel like he's a niche pick, certainly. But, he's fine as a mid laner, or as an. ADC if you have a sustained damage APC like Azir.

RakanRoII2/16/2017, 11:02:31 PM1 votes

Gosh you were so wrong :D