Scapegoat's Mask
A support item to confuse the enemies and protect your Marksman ^^
RiotRiot Sotere77 votesI don't know why this name seems so clever to me. But it does. Also, it seems like the perfect opportunity to upgrade Haunting Guise (a mask!) into a support item.
We put a lot of pressure on supports already to execute properly with active items and this takes that mechanical requirement to an even higher level. That would be my primary concern, but it's a cool idea besides. :)
Thryale4 votesHave you thought about an item that gave champs strategic stealth? Something like:
Unique active: champ becomes stealthed for 3-5 seconds. Stealth breaks upon attacking. 90 second cd. (possibly give a movespd buff if necessary)
as far as cloning is concerned, I think it'd be a great idea. Most low elo supports just build pure mage anyway, so feel that a magy item with great utility such as this would be a great way for those players to still do dmg while also providing more utility to his team.
Illâoi Evê Siôn4 votesYeah, but the Malphites ...
Thryale3 votesThat would be soooo epic
Mace of Spades3 votesPoor 
.... First 
gets a better version of his e, (Infinite stacks), now you want to destroy his q with an item?
As for it actually happening anyway, that stealth thing that twitch has used to last 60 seconds. Huge nerfs...
NewspaperNarwhal3 votesBut the Attspeed duration grew the longer you were in stealth, so for full potency you had to be stealthed for almost a minute...i did like being a ward and just sitting on an ADC and stalking them before i killed them
RiotRiot Sotere23 votesYah!, as is the case for a lot of ideas, we've played around with this one internally quite a bit. During the preseason we toyed around with a support item that would grant stealth to an ally. There are more than a handful of complicating factors. The thing we learned right away is that people love to use it to run away/escape.
darkdill5 votesI once spoke with Xypherous once a long time ago about the idea of a support Champion who could stealth teammates for a brief time (complete with a Rengar-styled "!" to let enemies know someone is stealthed nearby). He said that it was never going to happen because stealth-on-ally destroys counterplay against heavy initiators like Malphite, Amumu, Hecarim, etc.
But if Riot's opinion on this is changing, then by all means, I'd love to see a way to stealth a teammate.
Electro5223 votesWell, with the most recent champs, they are going against previous stated philosophies. So, I wouldn't be surprised.
That being said, they ought to make this champ to where it isn't too much like Zilean (as he currently stands)
darkdill3 votesI still doubt they'll do stealth-on-ally. The mechanic is really un-fun to play against when your enemies are cloaking a power initiator and you can't see them initiate until it's too late.
Electro5221 votesAhem.......
Even though he is not meant to be an initiator, he can still do it.
But, I get your point. They could make it to where any auto attack or cast ability deactivates the cloak. Almost every champion that can initiate uses an ability to do so. This would allow them to get into position, but only that.
darkdill2 votesEven then, opponents generally use spacing against power initiators in order to counterplay them. If they're cloaked, however, you can't zone against them, and thus the counterplay disappears.
SecretAgentHulk2 votesThere was a great thread recently, where somebody posited that Riot isn't going against previous stated no-nos so much as figuring out why they said they wouldn't do a thing, then figuring out how to make it work while keeping the "why" intact (e.g. Rek'Sai has global teleport because they figured out that adding the scream gave warning/counterplay options).
This would be a neat idea for a Zilean rework ability. Stealth is explained because you're teleported into the future.
Yodasodabob2 votesYou could make it so that it would only stealth if no opponent could see you (not neccessarily including wards), thereby mitigating the ability to use it to escape
Thryale2 voteswhat if it was just a selfish stealth instead? Also, defensive stats would be a no go on it as well.
DeusVult3 votesWhy not condition the stealth like the bonus MS on Voli's Q. So the person only gets it if they are moving towards a visible enemy champ
that said, i fear an amumu coming out of stealth in the middle of my team
I just wanted a hug
tau432 votesLike a Shadowblade from Dota 2.
Illâoi Evê Siôn3 votesThanks for the comment ^^
But aren't Haunting Guise's build path and cost (etc.) too impractical for Supports?
RiotRiot Sotere16 votesDepends! As a mage support (Annie, Zyra) I can definitely see the appeal of a Haunting Guise. Paired with early Sorcerer Boots, you have a ton of flat penetration and therefore damage against squishies. You don't normally want to then complete the Liandry's, is what I've found.
5G8Nri0B545 votes[{quoted}](name=Riot Sotere,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QdaRWJNL,comment-id=000800010000,timestamp=2015-01-24T23:29:56.127+0000)
Depends! As a mage support (Annie, Zyra) I can definitely see the appeal of a Haunting Guise. Paired with early Sorcerer Boots, you have a ton of flat penetration and therefore damage against squishies. You don't normally want to then complete the Liandry's, is what I've found.
lets not further cement Zyra as support. Still saltty u pissed on APmid players by gutting her just to force the support role on her
Silents4293 voteslets not further cement Zyra as support. Still saltty u pissed on APmid players by gutting her just to force the support role on her
-you- As if this guy specifically is what caused all that. Be nice.
Sukishoo2 votesTo me that's a waste of a slot if you DON'T to finish it.
TaylorGaylor3 votesThat's because Liandrys is a garbage item on almost every single champion that deals magic damage because it costs a fortune, the mpen is the same as the haunting guises' and the burn effect is crap because it doesn't stack. Really, the only reason you would upgrade would be to get the extra hp. The extra 200 hp. :o oh my so much hp NAWT
Serpens5 votesIt works surprisingly well with DoT users though. See: Malzahar, Brand, Vel'Koz, Zyra, etc
SecretAgentHulk5 votesMUNDO LOVE TORMENT
PokladnicaZla1 votesDear RIOT SOTERE.
Has there been any talk of an utility support armor item?Squishy supports really need it. :/
RiotRiot Sotere4 votesNot that I've heard of lately. A Glacial Shroud upgrade that makes sense for supports sounds tasty, though.
LongFur Fox3 votesMight i add that both this item and the item op posted originally, i am going to build them on tanks both in toplane and jungle.
Venowolf4 votesScapegoat's Mask
Recipe: 
Aether Wisp + 
Haunting Guise + 265 Gold = 2600 Gold
60 Ability Power
200 Health
6% Movement Speed
UNIQUE PASSIVE – EYES OF PAIN: +15 magic penetration
UNIQUE Active: Creates a clone of a target allied champion that lasts 6 seconds (90 seconds cooldown). You can control the clone's movement with this item, but it deals no damage.
Xengre1 votes[{quoted}](name=Riot Sotere,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QdaRWJNL,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2015-01-24T22:41:31.281+0000)
I don't know why this name seems so clever to me. But it does. Also, it seems like the perfect opportunity to upgrade Haunting Guise (a mask!) into a support item.
We put a lot of pressure on supports already to execute properly with active items and this takes that mechanical requirement to an even higher level. That would be my primary concern, but it's a cool idea besides. :)
It would have to have a very obvious damage amp on the clone otherwise you will end up in situations with 1, maybe as many as 3, of these on a single team pretending to get caught out and eating up enemy CDs/ults in an area that was intentionally de-warded to bait and just one side stomp the enemy team. I would love to see this item, though.
7ha7guy7774 votesone for all Shaco all using this item. so many Shacos
Duke Anax2 voteshmm how about:
+ 
+ 450g = 2533g
40 Ability Power 300 Health 100% Base Mana regen 10% Cooldown Reduction
Unique Passive – Eyes of Pain: +15 magic penetration
Unique Active: You switch position with target allied champion and take on their appearance for 5 seconds.
Meep Man1 votes[{quoted}](name=Riot Sotere,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QdaRWJNL,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2015-01-24T22:41:31.281+0000)
I don't know why this name seems so clever to me. But it does. Also, it seems like the perfect opportunity to upgrade Haunting Guise (a mask!) into a support item.
We put a lot of pressure on supports already to execute properly with active items and this takes that mechanical requirement to an even higher level. That would be my primary concern, but it's a cool idea besides. :)
Just a tip, dont ever not make an item because you think it might too much pressure on someone. Thats basically playing Support in a nutshell. High as heck mechanical requirements and clutch.
Venowolf1 votesRiot Sotere what about something like this?
Scapegoat's Mask
Recipe: Aether Wisp + Haunting Guise + 265 Gold = 2600 Gold
60 Ability Power 200 Health 6% Movement Speed
UNIQUE PASSIVE – EYES OF PAIN: +15 magic penetration
UNIQUE Active: Creates a clone of a target allied champion that lasts 6 seconds (90 seconds cooldown). You can control the clone's movement with this item, but it deals no damage.
Please, please give me your thoughts
Poptart Evelynn5 votesWhat if a team stacks it? I mean that would be pretty funny but gl trying to use ults on the right adc when their is 4 fakes :D
JevelFaithful1 votesThat would be pretty amazing. But I have to agree it should probably prevent the same character form being cloned multiple times.
But houray for more active!
Big Bang Bob2 votesYeah, but what about cloning yourself.
10 v 5 ftw :D
BetaDude405 votesHow would you control the other clone if you were Leblanc, Mordekaiser, or Shaco?
(not saying I play Leblanc, Morde or Shaco support cough cough)
Illâoi Evê Siôn8 votesWith the item ^^ You control clones with alt + click (I think?) and you would control the clone with the number the item is on as if you were right clicking somewhere with your mouse.
BetaDude406 votesAh, that seems to make more sense. It would be very difficult for me to coordinate that at first though.
Hypothetical Future Me: Alright, Shaco support, as usual. Hypothetical ADC: OMG HELP I AM DYING~~~ SHACO uses SCAPEGOAT'S MASK! Hypothetical Future Me: Alright, that got the ADC, now I gotta get out of here SHACO uses HALLUCINATE Hypothetical Future Me: Okay, now I just have to get myself out of the way so that I can use my clone and the clone of the ADC to deceive them, so I will right click here behind the turret, and alt-right click into them along with pressing 1 to move the ADC clone into- Sends Shaco Clone along with Fake ADC. Real ADC and Real Shaco walk into enemy bot lane YOU HAVE BEEN SLAIN Hypothetical Future Me: ...Welp. Fuck it. ENEMY DOUBLE KILL! Hypothetical Future Me: Wait, what? [insert ADC here], how did you die!?!? Hypothetical ADC: I though I was the guy running away from the turret...
In all seriousness, I would LOVE this item to be put on a support working with someone like Twitch. Twitch goes invisible, and you make a clone out of him. Clone gets killed and you and Twitch can just be the cleanup crew. I'd buy it
Mace of Spades3 votesYou play shaco support? 0.0
BetaDude403 votesOnce a fortnight, yeah. His E is just so oppressive, and should they dive you, you have your boxes and ult. And you can make a very quick getaway or walk off to place a ward with Shaco's Q.
Kinda underrated and underused support, but I'm still not very good as him >_>
Blue Collar Bear2 votesI like the item, because it provides tankiness, utility, and not a lot of power. It would be purely a defensive item with a lot of chance involved.
However, I think the clone should take more damage or start with less health.
JevelFaithful1 votesKinda like clones already in the game? I like that.
Mace of Spades1 votesClones already existing are so easy to find out even with the increased damage taken... Especially since shaco and wukong are junglers, they get the buffs that aren't cloned along with them, and LB usually gets blue buff...
Erockandroll2 votesI honestly can't really see this working. Mostly because a lot of champs can't really be balanced around this Item.
TheKingDodo6 votes
how would you know which one is the clone that's doing damage?
llamasx2 votesYou might want to clarify on how the clone appears. Is is like LB passive? where said champ disappears temporarily? Or would it require a bush juke to make it not obvious?
I do like the idea very much though.
