Why am I better than these Silver players matching up with me?

Iron Wu·Feb 17, 2017·1 votes·994 views

Last game loads up and I see two silver players on my team. Now Im thinking.. hmm maybe I have a shot at winning this. They die 10 times and we are forced to surrender meanwhile Im Bronze 3 in bottom lane and go 8 and 3.

Game earlier today, a Gold banner and a Silver banner and we lost.

What is going on? I admit I started off in Bronze 5 this season and climbed so far to Bronze 3 and yet I am way above these "Silver" and "Gold" players. Not just me but apparently the enemy team of Bronze is better than them too. This is my first year too, only have a couple months with the game. How do you get to Silver and or Gold? and suck?

Now I dread seeing Silver and or Gold players on my team.

15 Comments

ThrëatFeb 17, 20174 votes

They aren't even current season Silvers. You are playing with Bronze 4 - Bronze 2 on your team and Bronze 5 - Bronze 1 on enemy team. Being Silver 5 in Season 6 doesn't make them amazing or any better than someone that is Bronze 3 in Season 7 - the ranks are so close together that there is barely a difference between the two.

The Gold 5 that was on your team earlier did do significantly better than everyone else. He had 26.6k damage, you had 17.3k damage in comparison. He was also built pretty tanky while you were built damage oriented. You can't always look at basic stats like KDA and think that you properly evaluated a player. He also had 2k gold up on you.

I'm not saying you are shitter status and should feel bad about yourself but you should really not get in the habit of looking down on people that aren't beneath you.

Iron WuFeb 17, 20171 votes

Why can't people carry me for once then? I've won 5 out of my last 17 normal games.. How is that balanced? look at my previous games. The way I played in most of them I should not have lost. I think its impossible to get this account to have a higher win record than loss in normals. When I first started I had no idea what I was doing really and that hurt me.

Unreformed ShacoFeb 17, 20171 votes

Did you lose? Then you deserved the loss.

TheSingularityFeb 17, 20171 votes

Practice in norms, allot. Slowly your elo in norms will rise as long as you keep winning and you'll be able to get challenged by better players.

In regards to,

Why can't people carry me for once then?

If your main role (which appears to be ADC with jg as back up) is a carry position and you pick a carry style champion (Vi/jax jg) then that is your job plain and simple. If you don't want to carry and want to be carried, then play support or a beefy jungler/top.

The way I played in most of them I should not have lost.

I can guarantee that in every single one of your games, you did not play perfectly and made an insane amount of mistakes/misplays. For every kill that got away, every time you died, every minute you spent in lane after you kill their tower (not rotating lanes) and every CS and skill shot you miss, you can add a gold star to your "times I fucked up" counter. Your no special little snowflake. Even pros fuck up and it costs them way more than some lp or IP

Iron WuFeb 17, 20171 votes

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Practice in norms, allot. Slowly your elo in norms will rise as long as you keep winning and you'll be able to get challenged by better players.

In regards to,

If your main role (which appears to be ADC with jg as back up) is a carry position and you pick a carry style champion (Vi/jax jg) then that is your job plain and simple. If you don't want to carry and want to be carried, then play support or a beefy jungler/top.

Next:

I can guarantee that in every single one of your games, you did not play perfectly and made an insane amount of mistakes/misplays. For every kill that got away, every time you died, every minute you spent in lane after you kill their tower (not rotating lanes) and every CS and skill shot you miss, you can add a gold star to your "times I fucked up" counter. Your no special little snowflake. Even pros fuck up and it costs them way more than some lp or IP

My main in ranked is Mid (Corki "100% win rate currently" and Kassadin) and my secondary is Jungle (Vi and Jax). I've just been playing ADC in normals to get a better feel for the role.

Probably have a lot of gold stars but most games I don't feed. I might have one or two where my deaths are more than kills and assists combined but in Bronze that plays more than mechanics. In Bronze if someone gets fed, they just wreck. People can't handle Yi's etc.

It's frustrating.

TheSingularityFeb 17, 20171 votes

If people can't handle yi, ban him. There are arguably better bans but most of those champs are easier to lock down/kite/focus down ect. If not, pick a champ who can deal with the like of yi. Someone who can lock him down with a point+click CC like lissandra.

ScissorsNstuffFeb 17, 20171 votes

Maybe the way you play is wrong.

Maybe your measuring stick for what defines a good game is wrong.

ChaddyFantomeFeb 17, 20172 votes

If they are being matched with you, they are likely low MMR Silvers and thus it makes sense for them to be "crappier" than you.

Iron WuFeb 17, 20171 votes

I don't get it? Low MMR Silvers? How do you get to Silver with a low MMR?

TyphIosionFeb 17, 20171 votes

You can rank up even if you have a lower winrate than 50%...

Iron WuFeb 17, 20171 votes

So basically they just spammed Ranked games hoping the team they get carries them to a win?

Just got in a game with another Silver player.. this time he playing Mundo.. fingers crossed lol

Unreformed ShacoFeb 17, 20172 votes

Quit looking at peoples rank, especially low elo.

Bronze, Silver, Unranked? Who cares, y'all are shit.

ChaddyFantomeFeb 17, 20171 votes

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I don't get it? Low MMR Silvers? How do you get to Silver with a low MMR?

You can have a lower or higher MMR than your actual rank based on based on what your winrates are. Silver players that lose too often or suck and dont belong in silver and thus are at the bottom of the silver barrel will have MMRs or Bronze players.

ThrëatFeb 17, 20171 votes

Its really a perspective thing. You are of course going to remember the good you do more than the bad you do and the bad your team mates do more than the good your team mates do - this is just human nature. I'm going to point out your good with your bad so that you see that I am not just trying to attack you. I see potential in you and think you can grow.

You have had games in your last 20 where you did bad such as:

7-9-8 in a winning game 9-9-3 in a losing game 3-6-2 in a losing game 9-11-10 in a winning game 5-12-6 in a losing game 1-3-1 in a losing game 1-7-3 in a losing game 2-8-5 in a losing game

But you also had games in your last 20 where you did good: 8-4-1 in a losing game 15-5-9 in a winning game 23-9-8 in a losing game 13-0-8 in a winning game 15-10-14 in a losing game 7-7-16 in a winning game 7-1-9 in a winning game 13-3-9 in a winning game 7-4-10 in a winning game

So you had 9 good games and 8 bad games. One of the good games was only a half point, so I'd say it was about 8.5-8. In your bad games you won 2 of them when you should have lost. In your good games you lost 3 that you should have won. Considering you are within half a point between games you did good and games you did bad and within a point of games you should have won and lost and vice versa I'd say you are in a pretty even spot.

Don't focus on your team mates as much and just focus on improving yourself. Focusing on your team mates will drive you crazy. Learn how to set game play goals for yourself and concentrate on hitting them. Setting game play goals will take your mind off your team and give you a tool to use in game to measure if you are having a good or bad game. Some goals I set are X level by Y minute, X build by Y minute, and X towers by Y minute. These goals also make it easier to tell if you are ahead enough to try to help your team or if you can't afford to fall any further behind by making risky plays.

ScissorsNstuffFeb 17, 20171 votes

its because youre the next faker, just keep practicing and don't worry about everyone else except to carry them