Imma break the "Why is Vayne not nerfed? she is broken" threads to talk about another ADC, Kalista

LordTekron·9/11/2015, 11:15:25 PM·8 votes·2,209 views

Now, I may be one of the few people out there who doesn't exactly mind Vayne, yeah she can deal alot of damage, but usually I am playing a tank, so I don't a fuck, a tanky support like Braum or Tahm, so I don't give a fuck, and if I am in any other that doesn't make me tanky enough to not give a fuck, I usually just find a way to out damage her and not give a fuck. However, on the other hand, I frankly get pissed off at fucking Kalista. And to be fair, it's a similar problem to Vayne as it's just one thing that makes her irritating to deal with. With Vayne it's her True Damage of fuck your armor, but with Kalista it's her Passive of fuck you trying to get at me!

I had to actually stop for a bit when writing this, mainly because I was trying to find a way to write it so I didn't sound like a venting asshat... So here goes nothing

Let's start with WHAT her passive is, incase alot of people don't know it's called Martial Poise, when Kalista begins her attack animation or uses her Q. she can move a short distance by clicking somewhere.

So basically if you time your clicks well enough, you can chase/kite any champion you want to, however that leads to problem with playing against her. Trying to hit a moving target...

Now unless you have a skill that cannot be dodged (like Annie's Q or Veigar's R, and Auto Attacks but I'll get to those in a bit), all she needs is to hit you once and she'll be able to juke whatever you throw at her. And if your an ADC or someone just trying to whack her once for some reason (Braum passive, Ekko passive, Tahm passive, passives in general), you'll have to get close enough to her so she can be in range of your attack, which is easier said then done when she can hit you d then jump away. And with her having the average joe range attack of 550 (like, a majority of the ranged champions have that as their range), your gonna get away with some free harass.

And THEN you get attack speed, Have you ever wondered what it would be like to see Speedy Gonzales hyped up on cocaine while on a pogo stick firing and Uzi? That's Kalista once she get's enough attack speed, all she needs is one cocaine induced AA and she's off to the fucking races!

So unless you can out range her she can't really be stopped from hoping to and fro and not get hit, so what other options are there? Well there is the classic "Just use CC on her" technique, which really shouldn't be considered a counter as that can go for any champion except for Poppy because her ult is a giant middle finger to your team. And of course there is Riot's tips to counter Kalista (get a frozen hearth though it'll do jack shit now, try and guess where she will hop, and run into bushes and hope it's not warded), which can be summed up in 3 words: Don't get hit. Yeah I know that is paraphrasing to the extreme but that's basically what I am getting from it is don't get hit, which in a game where AA are unavoidable is complete bullshit.

Maybe I am over compicating things, maybe I am not looking at the other aspects which make her not so great of a reason to flood the gameplay/balance board as a compared to Vayne, Yasou, and Juggernauts. Maybe I am right and people will agree with me on it... Or maybe people will just downvote this to hell and call me a fucking twat that doesn't know how to counter someone like Kalista. I just thought I'd say my two sense and be on with my day. Could even get a red on this but that's just pushing my luck...

13 Comments

Sniper 09/11/2015, 11:16:02 PM2 votes

Everyone know's kalista is broken. More people prefer to go with the "omg true damage is broken" approach though. >.>

Bronzoid9/11/2015, 11:19:05 PM1 votes

you play a tank and you don't give a fuck about Vayne?Lol it should be the opposite. Kalista doesn't ignore your defenses

Lord Azır9/12/2015, 12:21:05 AM1 votes

Kalista is not nearly as bad as she use to be just build a item 3116

xxxMadLionxxx9/12/2015, 12:26:31 AM1 votes

IDK cause I dont play tank or melee so I've never really had an issue with Kalista, but the new thornmail is supposed to be geared towards attack speed and on hit effect such as Sated devourer.

CasterGilgamesh9/12/2015, 1:06:55 AM1 votes

meh kalista not that strong if it wasn't for her item 3085 and her spear she would fall off late game pretty hard plus she has no way of of using two of her abilities if she has no support around. vayne is very independent even if you force vayne behind she can just make a come back unlike kalista.

Hard4Hamsters9/12/2015, 3:31:36 AM1 votes

I had an ARAM where I ended up in a duel with a Kalista 1 v 1 as Syndra (I don't play Syndra disclaimer). That was fucking hilarious. I couldn't land anything as I had to purely predict where she would end up jumping to hit any of the abilities in my kit as they all have very telegraphed animations. Meanwhile she had gotten like 15 spears in my ass and then ripped them out of my mouth and I died without doing anything to her besides blowing her flash when I tried my E.